this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2024
424 points (94.5% liked)

politics

19120 readers
2072 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 7toed@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We can point fingers at demographics, and certainly that may have been a part, but its reductive to say just sexism. If we accept any single reason, there will be no reason to improve our platforms.

You've got Democratic leaning media blaming the dems for being too woke.. and more than half the country just didn't vote. We need a platform that argues in favor of worker and individual rights alike while not capitulating on either, because as soon as you do capitulate to the right, you lose support, plain and simple.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These people are throwing as much shit at the wall desperately to find anything to blame other then the Democratic Party. Perhaps it is a coping mechanism because the democrats would rather cling to First-past-the-post voting with rigor mortis clenched hands then to have to actually compete for your vote.

A trump presidency over breaking the two party system.

Party over country.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I understand to the kneejerk reactions to critique of the dems, but ffs this should be easy to win and who else do you critique then? Actually bring some change to the table and people will perk up to it. They've just let the repubs define them instead of doing anything to even make a name for themselves. At this rate I don't think we'll ever get ranked choice, unfortunately. Won't stop me from trying.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When the only voters who sat out were white and hispanic men then what would be the logical reason?

Why didn't women sit out this election at the same rates? Why not any other groups besides white and hispanic men?

What other conclusions can you even draw for these specific groups that have masculinity issues than not voting for a woman?

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let me go ask my whole voting block brb

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Make sure you phrase it so you don't accidentally emasculate the white and hispanic men

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Latinos shift to Trump won him the election. Harris had the white and black support she needed

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We cant split hairs on demographic turnout if overall turnout is way down from 2020, I mean we can make Latinos a scapegoat, but again we're completely subverting critique that could actually help win an election.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Im not trying to scapegoat. I’m just pointing out the facts.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact is those margins in the Hispanic community would barely make a dent on overall turnout? Hence, scapegoating.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If every white and hispanic man who voted for biden also voted for harris then she would have won

Acknowledging reality is not scapegoating

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

7,000,000 less votes than Biden has is beyond any single percent margin in minority populations. Even if.. what are you going to do? Harp on said demographics foe making the wrong choice for 4 years? Self righteousness ain't gonna solve the lost vote. Ask why things happen once in a while.