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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If you mean the current US election, absolutely nothing. Americans need to suffer at least for a short while to truly understand what they have done. Once the American people are willing to accept reason then any method of resistance from civil disobedience to revolution becomes acceptable.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Even if you'd get a vengeance kick out of it, the suffering won't produce the good results you want.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Americans need to suffer at least for a short while to truly understand what they have done.

Americans need to suffer at least for a short while

to truly understand that they are victims of a deeply, deeply flawed electoral system that can only result in fascism in its current state.

FTFY

polarization is a feature not a bug in FPTP elections.  UK will lose NHS for the same reason.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I'm not as optimistic about that as you are. The average person only knows what they're told and as long as the right controls the narrative in their homes they're going to think 'liberals' and 'illegals' and 'trans' are causing their pain, no matter how bad it gets.

Maybe some pain is what they need to snap out of this, but they also need a trusted voice to tell them the truth about who is doing it to them. Right now that person doesn't exist in a vast swath of American homes.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Suffering people vote for authoritarians.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

If history is repeated isn't it more likely that it results in a one party nation that isn't taken down unless a foreign country intervenes militarily?

These type of movements seem to lean towards one that as reflective of what the people of the country want with the initial stages more downplaying people's worst criticisms until power is successfully seized from all corners of that country's government.