this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
1174 points (97.9% liked)

196

16542 readers
2011 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Preach on.

I went to the Women's Rights National Historical Park in Seneca Falls, NY, and of all the things that really struck me hard there (it was a lot) I think the biggest hit was realizing how fucking long it took between the start of mainstreaming the movement and women actually getting the vote. None of the women who started that movement lived long enough to cast their own vote.

There was no "women's black panthers". There was no threat of violence if women can't control their own lives. Everybody got to pretty much just stay comfortable with their nice order. And change did. not. happen. For years.

Maybe the slow pace was worth it, I don't know. I'm not a woman and I'm not much devoted to order. But it seems pretty clear that "avoid offending anybody" is not an effective tool for change.