this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

Science Fiction

13651 readers
9 users here now

Welcome to /c/ScienceFiction

December book club canceled. Short stories instead!

We are a community for discussing all things Science Fiction. We want this to be a place for members to discuss and share everything they love about Science Fiction, whether that be books, movies, TV shows and more. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow.

  1. Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
  2. Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
  3. Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
  4. Put (Spoilers) in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers.
  5. Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread.

Lemmy World Rules

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

We took a trip through decades of the genre and came up with a list of the most important and best hard science fiction movies of all time. They are the essence and the foundations of the book of sci-fi rules that's still being written as we, the audience, become much more self-aware of our relationship with technology, the future, and whatever those two will bring.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Great movie, but I'm not sure it's considered "hard SF." There's no real basis to anchor much of the science in it.

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I'd say the same thing about "Sunshine" and "Interstellar".

Some movies I might consider including, in no particular order:

  • Moon (2009)
  • 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)
  • Silent Running (1972)
[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Both the book and the screenwriting required the invention of a form of alien linguistics which recurs in the plot. The film uses a script designed by the artist Martine Bertrand (wife of the production designer Patrice Vermette), based on scriptwriter Heisserer's original concept. Computer scientists Stephen and Christopher Wolfram analyzed it to provide the basis for Banks's work in the film.[32][33] Their works are summarized in a GitHub repository.[34] Three linguists from McGill University were consulted. The sound files for the alien language were created with consultation from Morgan Sonderegger, a phonetics expert. Lisa Travis was consulted for set design during the construction of the scientist's workplaces. Jessica Coon, a Canada Research Chair in Syntax and Indigenous Languages, was consulted for her linguistics expertise during the review of the script.[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrival_(film)

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're trying to say that the fact that they invented a realistic language for the film makes it hard SF, I think that's quite a stretch. What's the basis for

spoilera language changing a human's concept of time and allowing them to remember the future
?

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, though decades old & sounding like it’s from Star Trek, is the basis, from actual linguists. Highly implausible for humans & long outdated, but as the film’s linguist consultant quips, “for aliens, all bets are off.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what’s the basis for

fiction

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think we're connecting here. Hard science fiction is science fiction with an emphasis on scientific accuracy or plausibility. It's sort of a subgenre, and this list is about movies in that subgenre. It doesn't mean that there aren't great SF movies outside of that subgenre, but this isn't about those.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Although now I have to question the inclusion of Interstellar on this list, because it gets pretty far out there as well, especially at the end.