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Bluesky Might End Up Defeating Twitter Once and for All (slate.com)
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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 20 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Ha ha ha, yeah, sure. Bluesky won't defeat xitter, at best it'll just be the "next thing" once xitter finally finishes getting rid of most of its users, which I guess will take more than 4 years from now.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 hours ago

It’ll only defeat X if corporations and specifically media and sports entities start using it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

The great thing about BlueSky is how under-the-radar its flown for the last few years. Virtually no advertising. No legions of bot accounts spamming with invites and generic attention baiting posts. No |>u33y N |3io blowing up my mentions. No enshittification, because its just a primitive clone of the original Bird Site.

The more popular it gets, the less likely that'll last. BlueSky won't defeat Twitter until it becomes Twitter.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

My issue with BS is it took VC money from crypto bros.

What do we think will happen when they come looking for their returns on investment?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It will almost certainly become Twitter as it was created by the Twitter founder. The only difference being that it will become the Twitter from before Musk took over. Which is a massive difference.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

It's worse than that.

Blockchain Capital LLC was co-founded by Steve Bannon pal Brock Pierce, a major crypto advocate, perennial presidential candidate, and close friend of Eric Adams. Pierce has dozens of other shady MAGA/Russia ties as well.

https://toad.social/@davetroy/113476797192400901

Dorsey's already out, the people running the project are from the TESCREAL gang.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The only difference being that it will become the Twitter from before Musk took over.

Dorsey is just as emotionally stunted and socially reactionary as Musk. He simply isn't as wealthy.

BlueSky has thrived not because Dorsey crafted it into a purer vision, but because he's neglected it and allowed the user base to have their way.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I never liked Twitter to begin with so I'm not one to defend him. My preferred one is Mastodon, but generally I don't like the format to begin with. At any rate, I'll still take pre-musk Twitter over Xitter any day.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Things were better before they got worse, sure.

But the problem in these systems is the trade off between centralization (consolidated control and monolithic content) and federation (poor navigation/petty administrative feuds/less quality content). Switching from Twitter to BlueSky relieves you from the current admin's fuckups, but you're still stuck in a flawed system.

[–] caged_danimal@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Dorsey is no longer associated to bluesky. He was removed from their board.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand how those two things are distinct.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they don't consider it bluesky defeating twitter if twitter is commiting suicide. Sounds like pedantry to me.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 hours ago

Digg did commit suicide. I was there for it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The key factor in Digg’s demise was a flawed design that was too easily abused by users. Digg had no controls over user verification, so individuals could game the system by creating multiple accounts to artificially inflate the number of votes for their own content. Because Digg displayed content in order of popularity, most visitors saw and voted only on content that was already popular. This system created a vicious cycle in which a small number of dedicated users could push their own content to the front page and thereby gain more followers, allowing them to more easily repeat the process. As Digg grew, so too did its problems related to power-hungry users cheating and gaining undue influence over content.

Sounds like the same problem that every centralized social media ecosystem suffers from. The big difference between Digg and Reddit was that Reddit successfully monetized the "push me to the front of the queue" algorithm rather than engineering around it.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

The Digg bar is why I stopped using Digg