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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We BEGAN our existence with slave holding white men who created documents to rule the country which stated "All men are created equally". Then went home, treated the women in their lives like shit for the next 142 years AT LEAST, while also owning slaves.

Today slavery is mostly abolished, and women have equal rights.

Believe it or not, this IS progress......really really slow progress.

[–] YourShadowDani@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, California just voted to KEEP prison labor slavery so....

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really? That's disappointing. That sounds like a Texas thing more than a California thing.

Shit, what's next? Texas raises their min wage to $20 an hour, and tied to inflation?

God damn! These states are losing their identity. Michigan voted red......I mean, I know I'm legally obligated to hate Michigan as a resident of Ohio, but damn. Michigan used to make me jealous of their government. Now it's voted red.

And yes, I'm aware Ohio also voted red. But we're Ohio. Nobody was expecting anything cool from us. Michigan had expectations.

Of coarse none of that matters. Without PA, Harris had no path to victory. So, we should all be mad at PA.

So I propose for the next 4 years we boo every PA sports team. Their residents don't deserve happy sports.

Of coarse, that being said, who CAN you cheer??? I propose Seattle. That way, you don't have to cheer the Yankees. Plus, you don't get caught up in the whole Boston fued.

Who's going to fued with Seattle? Assholes. That's who.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Michigan used to make me jealous of their government. Now it's voted red.

To be fair they only went red for the president. Both their senators are democrats and their representatives are 50/50.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember a time when Ohio was a blue state. Then a swing state. Now it is a red state. Ohio is where JD Vance came from.

Michigan used to be a blue state. Now it's a swing state. So that gives you an idea on where they are in the timeline.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Well we're kinda on track to undo start both of those things so...

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to believe this, I truly did think that overall there was progress. But I'm worried now because it looks like we're going backwards, I just hope we don't slide too far that we legitimately undo it all.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's always been that way. That's why the progress is really slow.

It's all Nixons fault. He was actually going to be a really really great president. If he had won reelection, he may have been remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.

But, he had one core problem that will always keep him from the place atop history that he SHOULD have had.

Now, you probably think I mean watergate. But Watergate was a symptom of the problem. Not the problem itself.

The problem was that he was morally corrupt. People have seeminly incorrectly remembered watergate as a desprate last ditch effort that was his only chance at winning. It wasn't.

I know it doesn't seem like it right now, but historically a sitting president gets reelected most of the time. Add that to the fact that he had some great policies. He was one of the best presidents in terms of environmental issues. He fully understood international policy. So much so that in 1994 before he died, he straight up predicted issues of how the soviet union breaking up would play out for russia 30 years later. He didn't name putin by name, but he told of everything putin's done during modern times, and how it would force them to try to go to war with a former soviet member nation. He said this would happen 30 years later, back in 1994. He wasn't even alive to see putin take power, but understood exactly what would happen no matter who it was.

But, for all that potential to be a great president, his corrupt morals, and lust for power led him down a coarse of history that leads us to where we are today.

Because Fox News was specifically started, as quoted by Rupert Murdock, as existing for the sole purpose of influencing americans into massaging their own beliefs towards thinking anything the GOP does is alright, and any opposition is their enemy.

And that is HUGE in understanding why America is the way it is right now.

Basically, if Nixon weren't corrupt, he wouldn't have used a war on drugs against marijuana, because he wouldn't have felt that exploiting Americas black citizens would be appropriate. If that doesn't happen, he doesn't see a declining rating among black voters. If that doesn't happen he doesn't feel right about the concept of watergate. If that doesn't happen he doesn't have to resign to avoid impeachment. If that doesn't happen Fox News isn't started. If Nixon never resigns, the GOP doesn't feel angry towards Clinton and seek impeachment. If that doesn't happen the American population doesn't learn that impeachment is no big deal. If America never learns that, years later trump doesn't feel immune from impeachment to the point that his actions get him impeached twice.

If fox news is never created, news treats 9/11 as a factual breakdown of events, rather than an emotional reaction that we need to support the Bush presidency with everything they want. If that doesn't happen, America never gets divided in 2003 over the idea of our troops still being overseas.

And if fox news doesn't exist, we don't spend the next 10 years sucking off bush, and then being surprised that a black man won presidency.

Now I still think America would have been racist towards Obama, but not surprised. They just got told for 8 years that 9/11 was the fault of clinton and the democrats. They just almost a decade being told that minorities were ruining this country. Then a black man from their perspective is suddenly president without reason. Without the surprise element, they may have been willing to hate him for policy, rather than some imaginary sneak attack takeover of the presidency. Then if it was policy only, Obama comprimised EVERYTHING to work with them. Maybe too much actually. But the point is, republicans working WITH democrats is the very foundation of how this country is SUPPOSED to work. Instead you now have two sides of the same coin not realizing they are on the same coin. That coin being America itself. Republicans znd democrats treat each other like warring neighbor nations rather than two hands that need to shake.

And it all traces back to Nixon pulling a stunt to spy on opposition, when he really didn't need to. I think he'd have won of his own merrits. People forget that he WAS popular. And then suddenly, within a few months, not a single American could endorse him. Because they all had empathy and morals. And Rupert Murdovk sought to change that in the future.

Well. His plan worked. We're living his dream. And now everybody has to suffer, so the GOP can change from an organization that at one time were the good guys. Founded the EPA. Funded libraries. Vastly raised public school funding through a series of tax raises.

Hell, back in the 1800s, they even fought against slavery and the KKK.

What I'm describing is clearly an organization with beliefs that no longer represent the republicans.

But what I'm trying to say is, no matter how it happens, there's always highs, and always lows. The pendulium goes back and forth. Never one side taking all. So if you don't want to reverse the path we've taken, you need to fight for it. Not with voting. But actual revolution and rebellion. You need to show up on their doorstep, 5 million men strong, all armed to the teeth, all ready to say "no."

And if they still say "yes", be prepared for war. We freed the slaves through the bloodiest battle in American history. If they want to reverse it, you need to be ready to let them know in no uncertain terms, the answer is still no.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

There are more slaves nowadays than ever before, we just outsourced them to the south with some middleman that way pay so nobody can say, that we are slave holders anymore.