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I'm on 24H2 Windows 11 with a local account set up, ran windows debloat tool and have CoPilot/onedrive/other data mining features un-installed.

Edit: I have a plan to make the switch to Linux. For now I was just looking for any feedback on how to handle current Windows OS. I whole heartedly hate Microsoft as much as the next, I promise lol.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When you have to spend more time fixing Windows than actually using it, it's probably time to consider ~~buying a Chevy~~ installing Linux instead.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

??? Took the same amount of time as any windows set up. Why would this even come close to the amount of times it would take for me to learn an entirely new operating system?

I plan to make a Linux drive to learn and test different software in but I'm not about to make that kind of blind leap without trying it out first.

I appreciate all the encouragement to make the switch but until I pull the trigger I'd like my current Windows OS to run as unmolested as possible.🍻

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Linux never asked my mother's maiden name nor insisted on creating a cloud account just to log into my computer.

Also, many distros of Linux come with all the main baseline productive software one should need on a live boot media, ain't even gotta install it to try it out.

[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Lol wut? Even on Windows 11, I can use a local account with zero online signup. Linux is fantastic, I have two machines running it, but there are some specific softwares that are still Windows dependent (think video editing, music production, VFX).

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you can install Linux but you couldn't figure out how to use Rufus to install Windows? Figures

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Who said I can't figure out how to install Windows? I don't want Windows anymore.

The very first thing I did when I got my laptop that shipped with Windows 10 was format it and install Linux.

It's a shame that I can't transfer the Windows key in the firmware to someone that could use it ☹️

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's not very different if you don't dig into the guts of the thing. I think the people most afraid of making the switch are actually the ones it is easiest for. If you're not used to digging into the windows registry and haven't upgraded to powershell 7, then you probably won't touch much of what's different in Linux.

The hardest part is picking a distribution -- I usually recommend either Fedora or Ubuntu. -- and an xwindows system -- and coming from Windows I usually recommend KDE Plasma or from MAC I'd recommended GNOME. So either:

https://fedoraproject.org/spins/kde/

OR

https://kubuntu.org/

The only reason I stuck with Windows for so long was PC gaming. But I don't do much of that anymore and what I do actually do runs fine on Linux these days. So I haven't looked back. But you can always install Linux after Windows is already present if you have a spare hard drive and boot into either at will. Just don't try to do the opposite since Windows installer will corrupt your Linux boot setup.

But to each his own. Windows is now a platform like many others where you trade your personal information for services instead of or in addition to your money. Some people are OK with that and that's totally fair.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But what if in installing Linux you have to spend even more time fixing it and getting everything to work right?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It depends on your use case, do you have non-common needs like specialized software that may not work out of the box?

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Specialized software like my audio drivers?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, since many of them work out-of-the-box today. My PreSonus sound card worked fine when I made my setup four years ago.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On older hardware I almost never have issues, it's only really on the latest hardware that I run into all sorts of issues.

But even then I still run into issues decently often on older hardware. ex: On my T14 gen 1 (came out in 2020 so should be well supported) I was distro hopping and kept running into all sorts of things that annoyed me. The fingerprint reader was hit or miss which really surprised me. Some distros it didn't show up at all, others it technically worked, but was so inaccurate it was infuriating to use, and often times would randomly stop working. S0 standby is still really fiddly and inconsistent. It sucks ass on windows, but it was even worse with almost any distro I tried. Trackpads are also still borderline unusable on linux. I know it will never come close to Mac OS which has spoiled me, but dear god does it bring back some mid 2000s PTSD. Also battery life was much worse which surprised me for a machine of that age, I figured power management would have been perfected by now.

But that was my beater machine, I don't even bother installing it on my main machines. Mostly because of the nvidia GPUs. I have yet to try it on my old RTX 3080 laptop, but I might give it a shot since it's currently unloved. But my biggest concerns are with S0 standby (curse you Intel), and battery life. I have never gotten good battery life on bleeding edge hardware, and from all the reading I've been doing lately it looks like the battery life gap has only gotten worse on brand new hardware. I know newer ryzen battery life has been pretty rough, but it's making some good strides. The problem is that by the time the support is fully baked I'm eyeing another upgrade.

Virtual machines or servers? Hell yeah I use Linux all day long. On my computer? No thanks. I'll still to my weird windows + mac setup.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since you've been using Linux for a while, why not buy hardware that you know are more compatible like AMD GPUs? Do you need the latest top range GPUs for your activities?

Does the job well is my priority, not runs Linux.

I'm also not going to buy inferior hardware just to run a specific OS. Plus in a laptop you don't really get a choice. Almost 0 workstations have AMD GPUs.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Install Ubuntu.

Just built a gaming pc for my wife. Installed Ubuntu. Everything just…worked? Even wireless drivers.

Install steam. Go through menus to enable Proton. Install Hogwarts Legacy. Works fine.

Most I had to do was edit a single text file to get her 8bitdo controller to work.

That was where I started before I went distro hopping on my test machine. Ubuntu had a really annoying issue where the fingerprint reader would randomly stop working waking up from sleep. Going into sleep sometimes just didn't work, and battery life was also pretty awful.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I've never had significant problems with that. I mean sure, there can be minor hiccups and inconveniences when finding and installing proprietary drivers, but aside from that, I don't have any issues after that.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While FreeCAD has made huge leaps forward it's just not there yet, and it may never be what's needed to replace windows exclusive CAD software.

I'm stuck with the windows second boot, for better or worse, unless i change profession.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oof, I hear you there. So the CAD software you use won't run under WINE?

Oddly enough, I've repaired a plasma cutter controller system running CAD software from 1991, running under Microsoft Xenix of all things.

It probably ain't too much of a stretch to get that software running under Linux, if only the company released their source code.

It was cheaper for them to keep their old stuff running than dump $20,000+ into a new updated system.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, too glitchy (missing functionality) with wine and the cloud services are unreliable if working at all. Work stuff so gotta use it 🫠

[–] sbf 1 points 1 week ago