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I'm a dude, but I frequently browse BadWomansAnatomy. I was having a (calm, respectful) debate with a few users regarding how a lot of people that have "transitioned" still bear hallmarks of their former gender (I mentioned one of my long time friends who has gone from MTF and still looks the same. Kaitlin and Elliot are also good examples). The ban was because I dared to use the "dead names" of Elliot Page and Kaitlin Jenner! Oh the horror! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

I went to post in /r/rant how I just thought it was ridiculous and it was autoremoved because I mentioned the world "mod" in the title and I mentioned a specific community ๐Ÿคฃ

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[โ€“] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I mean, did you intend to dead name them? If not, did you correct yourself?

Because if you did it intentionally, you're an asshole. If you did it by mistake because you brain farted, but didn't correct it, you're an asshole. You did use the right names here, so I ain't mad. But let me frame things for you.

If you went through the effort of changing what people call you from your first name to your middle name, anyone refusing to switch would be an asshole. Doing it if you were struggling with something major related to that name would make them a giant asshole.

IDGAF who it is, if they aren't picking a name just to fuck with people, you fucking call them what they want to be called, period. Anything else is just douchebaggery.

Now, when you add in that dead naming trans people can be an act of aggressive verbal attack to trans people as a whole, the person doing so isn't just an asshole, they're a bigoted asshole.

Is that who you want to be? The person that fucks with people just trying their best to live a free and happy life? If that is who you want to be, I have to warn you that reddit is not the only place online you'll end up barred from. And there are people that will treat you poorly because of being an asshole. Actions have consequences, and words can be a form of action. While I support your freedom to say what you want within the framework of general legality regarding incitement, that doesn't mean anyone has to accept that kind of thing and let you spew nastiness.

So, take the ban like an adult. Accept that you fucked up enough for the community, and use that in the future to really think about the subject and decide who you want to be.

[โ€“] Tregetour@lemdro.id 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So, take the ban like an adult. Accept that you fucked up enough for the community, and use that in the future to really think about the subject and decide who you want to be.

I see this patronizing, judgmental language everywhere on the internet, and I'm pretty tired of it. OP is right to be annoyed.

Here's an intelligent question: Why is R*ddit a place where every little infraction, real and perceived, attracts the account death penalty?

[โ€“] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Well, if you are seriously defending someone dead naming people on purpose, nobody worth a damn cares about your opinion.

To answer your question, there's two parts. First, it doesn't matter where it is, shitty behavior means you aren't allowed back. Reddit, lemmy, your house, my house, a bar, you ignore yr rules you get thrown out and not allowed back in.

Second, reddit is reddit. The site/company has been like that for ages, so anyone acting surprised by it are idiots, and anyone still using it when the company has repeatedly shown they will do exactly what op described is a masochist and/or an idiot.

Now, you can be as tired of it as you like, we don't owe each other a gods damned thing. But OP was a moron, and deserved to be out on their ass. Any rational adult is aware that words have consequences. Any rational adult knows that if one breaks the rules of a community, one will be rejected from that community. This is not calculus, it's 2+2. So, when an adult does something bone headed and gets ejected, they need to be an adult and move on without whining about it.

Also, it wasn't a very intelligent question. It was phrased poorly, and reflects limited thinking. That, btw, is patronizing and judgemental as well ;)

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