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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.

Goddamn this hits the exact thing that Democrats really need to learn.

There's a ton of emotion in this nation. Given:

  • The opioid crisis where the people responsible are in perpetual litigation.
  • The wars we fought that costed us deaths of young people who had lives ahead of them, and scarred millions more. All so that a few rich asshats could profit.
  • The corruption of large companies as they swindle the working class, only to watch legislators continue to profit off of insider trading.

And that's just to name a few. There's a ton of emotion in this nation. And Trump, for better or worse, taps into that emotion. The cut and dry democrats, they keep telling us, "The system will work, this time" and you have a public that just screams "well how soon is now then?"

Democrats cannot just keep tapping on the system as it currently stands when the system so obviously doesn't deliver. There are hungry democrats looking for change to the system to form a more better system that will serve them, and the party just keeps dressing the bones of the long gone bird from days long pass.

Sanders fucking sinks the nail in a single stroke of the hammer on this. And Republicans are using that emotion, that pent up distrust of the system as it is, to move people in their direction. The entire point of this living government is to have a government, to have a system, that matches the people who are alive and having to deal with it. Sanders sees that and cut and dry Democrats keep going "but Trump will ruin the system that doesn't work for you!!"

Goddamn, one day, they will learn. Democrats will pick up on what Sanders is saying one day. But holy shit, they are going to clearly take an incredibly long and winding road to get there. I don't agree with where Republicans want to take us. I don't agree with how Republicans want to get there. But goddamn, we've got to hand it to them that they're actively pointing out the exact same thing the Sanders is pointing out. "Status Quo ain't going to fucking work anymore." The sooner the traditional Democrats learn that, the faster they can come back to being relevant.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The single best thing the Dems can do now is take a chapter out of the Republican playbook and obstruct everything, full tilt, no good barred. Inject themselves into everything, all committees, panels, investigations, reviews, etc, and block. See how much Trump can accomplish when the shoe's on the other foot.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tbh, unless Wasserman-Schultz and the other imbecilic DNC royalty step down or are made to fuck all the way off somehow, I don’t think the Democratic Party is going to recover from this. And in that case, frankly, they shouldn’t recover. This result is absolutely, unambiguously damning.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again with this talk about strategy as if any of it is going to matter in 3 months when they start executing people

I mean… I don’t think you’re wrong, but I also think it’s useful to make contingency plans for cases OTHER than the most likely worst-case scenario.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Goddamn, one day, they will learn. Democrats will pick up on what Sanders is saying one day.

In the next government, we're not having elections thanks to Harris botching it for everyone. The RBG of presidential candidates. Thinking you know best until it's too late and now we need to plan for the fact you made things worse.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The RBG of presidential candidates.

If holding on too long is RBG's legacy, then wouldn't Biden be the RBG of presidential candidates? He held on until after the primaries before dropping out.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough, point taken.