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“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 113 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said in a statement Wednesday. “First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

Dems 100% sold them out and assumed they'd still vote D as long as a handful of issues were different.

The worse the Republicans got, the worse Dems got. Because they could get away with it and it increased donations.

The thing is it just energizes republicans and depresses Dem turnout.

If the goal is winning elections is a terrible strategy.

If you only care about money and the election is just a grift to you tho, it's a win/win. The result of the election doesn't really matter.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, they should've voted Dem, but instead sat out against their own best interest.

The electorate is incredibly fucking stupid.

The strategy made sense to anyone with half a brain. It seems I overestimated the median American, though.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

You're right. Lot of people sat out because of inflation, which was driven by corporate greed, which of course a Republican is not going to address. The electorate needs a fucking education. Prices have stopped climbing aggressively. They're not going to go back down. Wage growth is the next step, which is another thing a Republican will not address. Americans cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 59 points 5 hours ago

and now the ratchet effect will kick in again:

"See? The people WANT the republicans. That's why they keep electing republicans. Therefore, if we want to be competitive, we must become more like republicans."

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 42 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

There was never really that much risk of Dems losing voters to the Repubs (at least as long as Trump was the R candidate). The real damage came from Dems losing enthusiasm.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 7 points 2 hours ago

The thing that has driven me crazy for so long is this is the situation in America.

There are 70M Americans that will vote Republican and nothing will ever change their minds

There are 70M Americans that will vote Democrat and nothing will ever change their minds

There are a couple million independent undecided voters that everyone goes after

Then there are 100M+ people that sit out the election and no one seems to try to understand what would make them vote. It’s so crazy that we have just decided that there are red states and blue states and that’s how it is. A party that could retain some of either party while activating half the people that sit out would be a force to reckon with.

As the Democratic Party has tried to find some way to win again they have gone after which group? The handful of independents and the 70M republicans that aren’t going to vote for them ever. And the people sitting it out probably aren’t looking for them to shift right, if so they would be republicans.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

This. I just had a very long argument with someone else that completely and utterly failed to grasp this simple concept. Trump ran as the most conservative conservative ever and his base loved him for it. Harris ran as the most conservative liberal ever and her base gritted their teeth and grudgingly trudged to the polls. And then the DNC is shocked and flabbergasted that they didn't get a better turnout.