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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 260 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (8 children)

Yeah, I'm giving up after this.

The Democratic party just can't deal with the stupidity and racism that is the American population.

I mean for fucks sake, Black and Latino voters increased their votes for Trump this time around.

Just time to hang up the hat and let America burn.

Also:

Biden got 81,282,916 votes

Harris got 66,153,556 votes

Americans didn't even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again. Yeah, there's no saving this democracy.

[–] t_chalco@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Americans didn’t even bother to show up and now we have a Republicans in control of all three branches again.>

Absolutely. Trump did not have a significant bump in votes, 10 million voters did not turn out, or so early figures show. Of them, it's largely white suburban males. Apathy leads to populism. Dr. King had something to say about white liberals...

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Sure but at the same time Blacks and Latinos made significant bumps to the Trump vote here too. I would have to imagine that Dr. Kind would have some choice words for them too.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Today is a dark day. But, I will say this...

When the world gets dark, new lights often appear. It's a funny thing, but good people tend to be quiet and reserved. It's the anger of the patient person, and the good people pushed too far, that often can incite the most change. As Mr. Rogers' mother famously told him - look for the helpers when you see scary things unfold.

It's time for the helpers.

I hope everyone reading this understands what this means. We must help now. Don't look for the helpers, because we aren't children, as Fred Roger's once was...

Protect the people around you, especially the vulnerable and those at the most risk. Do it at the cost of your safety and well-being.

Cruelty has won a great battle today, but it can't win the war without a fight.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm 1 points 40 minutes ago

Alright, give me some hope we can still prevent like >3°C global warming, cause I ain't having any hope left.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 47 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nah. Trump got fewer votes (when you account for the ~4% population growth since the 2020 election) than last time, while Dems lost a fuckton of votes, compared to 2020.

Trump won, both the election, and the popular vote, not because he got Dems to vote for him, but because a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You are saying, in other words, that a black woman with indian ancestry and an exemplary career in the government was not enough incentive to go vote for self-perceived progressive people? That was actually my point.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 32 minutes ago

Exemplary? Lol

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

This is the best we have

The best America can do is fucking awful. It's been this way for years. We elected Bush II twice. We elected Reagan twice. We elected Nixon twice. It's always been a shitty country filled with terrible people.

I'd like to say I'm glad other people are starting to realize something I've known for years, but people are going to get hurt because "patriotic liberals" didn't have the courage to admit we're the shithole country.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago

I don't think it's that simple, but it's understandable to think like this just the next morning after such a defeat.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is insane. This was a failure of the Democratic party.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It was a failure of the voter. No campaign Harris could've ran would've won. Biden needed to pick a different veep, that's why this is happening. Had it been a white guy, we'd be fine. Race and sex do matter

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Democrats had a mulligan. Instead of finding a candidate that gave them the best chance, they pick the person next in line. Would have been difficult to pick someone else? Yes. Would it have been worth it? I think so.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Honestly, yeah, there would have to be a decent amount of them with almost 20 million voters who didn't show up to vote.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 96 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't forget they are going to intentionally force us back to coal and oil, and stifle all transitions to cleaner energy. So really how bad could it be

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 54 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, the world is pretty fucked here. We're at a tipping point for climate disaster.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, maybe this is what the cure is for humanity.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

The Oxygen Catastrophe wasn't a one-time poisoning. It was a series of oxygenation waves, killing themselves off only to rebuild and kill themselves off again. We were never cured of the oxygen polluters.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

In addition to what you said, I wonder how Biden and then Harris deciddd to become the nominee. What the methodology was. The dems could have hired a psychologist who could have guided them on the kind of candidate that would have won the American people over. They could have hired a pr team to help manage their campaign. The dems essentially took a bigger risk than it did in 2016 and it backfired on them again… except this time less people voted.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that part of my immigrant family is this stupid. Thankfully, they can't vote fwiw. 🤷‍♂️

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Don't feel bad man, your family isn't you and you can't control when your family does something stupid. Heck my immigrant family that can vote was going on about not voting this year because of both sides bullshit and I had to talk them that yeah, you need to vote regardless. Not that it mattered because native born Americans are such a lost cause at this point.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My parents didn’t vote either. They’re also upset that they don’t have many choices because they’re independents. To them it doesn’t matter who the president is, to them it is inconsequential.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Then encourage them on reforms to get rid of First-past-the-post and they may get someone who is capable of thinking and breathing to vote for.