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Whoever ran the Harris campaign on Reddit deserves their salary. That was an amazing echo chamber that had me fooled. I was expecting a blue wave better than Biden 2020. Too bad it doesn't translate into the election.
Trump always overperforms. Even in 2020 he did better than he had any right to. This time there is no covid hanging over his head and Biden/Harris are taking all the blame for inflation.
It also does not hurt that millions of Americans willingly consume hours of right wing propaganda everyday. Fox News remains one of if not the top cable channel (after sports) and Joe Rogan one of the top podcasts. Meanwhile CNN has shifted right, papers like the Washington post have been compromised, and the remaining “liberal media” is so obsessed with appearing unbiased that they end up “sane washing” GOP craziness and inflating minor democrat flubs.
Double standard. Trump wins 2016 and it's 4chan and reddit won it for him. Democrats finally get a clue 8 years later an start using social media but this time it doesn't factor.
Biden 2020 was a nail-biter of a win and thus far I don't think any of the states he won have been called for Trump. But there being no surprises in the blue direction is not very comforting even if Harris does pull it out.
unfortunately it is not looking good
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president-forecast-needle.html
Georgia just got called for Trump.
It was the same here. Moderation in this sub (to a lessor extent) and other subs (world, news, political_memes), cultivated a garden, through bans, to echo back to themselves the world as they expected to see it. Lemmy is just as knee-jerk delusional in its bans/ down votes as reddit. Dissent gets ignored and down voted. Facts are down voted. Legitimate criticisms are down-voted. All, down-voted into oblivion, because people want a comfortable lie more than an inconvenient truth.
You picked up the wrong message if you think grandstanding about Palestine was going to have any effect on this election at all. A significant portion of this country has fallen to fascism already. We got a lot bigger problems to deal with than the protest vote about Gaza. This country is now a vassal state of Russia, and US hegemony has fallen to the same unitarian kleptocracy that defines the collectivist Eastern Bloc. Figure it the fuck out. War is coming. Decide which side you're gonna be on Komrade, or it will be decided for you.
You are just wrong. Harris lost this because of her campaign and her rejection of the Palestinian people was her first act as candidate. She led with a sense of entitlement that voters have no other option.
They do. She' and her apologists have doomed us all.
I am 100% correct. There is no significant population in this country that cares about the fate of Palestinians in comparison to how much they care about themselves.
If what you say is true, and I'm not suggesting it is- if our furthest left "viable" party can win on a platform that is funding genocide and barely opposing the ~~fascists~~ Republicans, then we were doomed no matter what.
Firsf of all, don't project your own arrogance onto the rest of us. Second, even ignoring Palestine, it was an objectively bad campaign. She didn't offer anything material to vote for beyond not being trump.
It is.
I agree. That is essentially the root of my argument based on the circumstances, historical context, and available evidence.
This is not not coming from a place of arrogance. I'm sorry if you interpret my comments this way. I take no pleasure nor pride in providing the analysis that violent resistance to to a rising tide of fascism may be necessary in our lifetime.
I don't even necessarily disagree with this. I just thought the population would be more sober minded about the threat of ceding democracy to a demagogue who now has unchecked legal authority to remake society in his own image. I was wrong. I will never make that mistake again. From here on out I will be significantly more militant about my ideology.
what specific facts were down voted?
Literally any criticism of the Democratic party. Like how Biden dragged his feet on withdrawing and then we "didn't have time" for a primary.
Or criticism of foreign policy. Afghanistan was a cluster fuck and it seems both parties support Israel no matter what.
Letting the electorate focus on border security instead of protecting women's rights was another obvious blunder, but no one expected Abbott to bus migrants to liberal cities. Republicans are really good at making immigration an issue.