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It's going to boil down to ~~VA~~, PA, MI, WI, MN. A Trump win in any of them puts him over the top. Harris has to take all ~~five~~ four. VA just got called for Harris. 1 down, 4 to go.
MSNBC called PA for Trump, that's it. It's over.
But the "Anti-Genocide" vote in Michigan is not significant.
Donald Trump 47,322,739 votes (52.5%)
Kamala Harris 41,760,788 votes (46.3%)
Jill Stein 334,826 votes (0.4%)
Chase Oliver 334,504 votes (0.4%)
Robert Kennedy 291,829 votes (0.3%)
Other candidates 160,156 votes (0.2%)
Harris is down 6 million. The other protest votes are 10% of that.
When the "anti-genocide" people accelerated and intensified the outcome of the existing genocide by protest voting for spoiler candidates it is really hard to muster any sympathy.
Sometimes you have to be willing to play politics in order to win at politics. Purity testing doesn't count for shit when the opposition is literally in favor of enslaving the entire human race for sport.
Way to go! You really showed the lesser of two evils who's boss, while the ultra-nationalist psycopaths erradicate millions more innocent people. Nice fucking job 👏
Harris played it safe and it looks like she's going to lose anyway, so maybe she should've considered more progressive ideas. Or maybe listened to her constituents instead of doing what Democrats always fucking do, and playing off the "you have to vote for us because we're not them."
But no, let's blame the voters for a candidate failing to win them over.
I'm fine with tacking to the left. She was not the candidate to do it. Until you have someone who is willing to threaten to rally the same kind of structural violence that Donald Trump is capable of in opposition, and actually make good on it, then moving to the middle is the only logical option. We either get serious about forcing our positions by any means necessary or pander to the lowest common denominator. Those are the only two options.
The spoiler candidates weren't really a factor, at least not in MI. We'll see how it plays out elsewhere, but as noted above, Harris being down 6 million and ALL the spoilers COMBINED for 600K.
They drove down enthusiasm, and refocused the attention away from the global threat to democracy. So, no offense, but I completely fucking disagree. The fate of Palestine is negligible in comparison to the long term threat of global authoritarianism.
the county trends in swing states compared to 2020 are extremely discouraging.
This makes the assumption that the protest vote went to Jill Stein.
I've been saying the entire time that both of these candidates were in a race with the couch.
Harris didn't give voters something to show up for. So they chose the couch.
Not JUST Jill Stein. The combined total of ALL the "also ran" candidates doesn't cover the gap between Trump and Harris.
Even if they all voted for Harris, it wouldn't make a difference.
Which one of those candidates is "I didn't vote because I didn't feel represented?"
I expect, when the votes are all counted, you won't see a significant difference in the percentage of non-voters.
We're going to need to look at post election polling I think.
Oh, definitely!