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I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you're a hunter-gatherer.

So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I'm not an exception.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Try making tomato sauce without sugar. Get back to me when you’ve tasted your horror.

[–] CiderApplenTea@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

This is ridiculous, I hardly ever make tomato sauce with (added) sugar and it tastes delicious. I suppose if you're used to sugar being in everything it may taste odd, but it is far from horrendous

[–] teft@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, a small amount of sugar improves tomato sauce. It cuts the acidity.

[–] CiderApplenTea@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

After reading the other comments for a bit, it may depend on the tomatoes. The tomatoes I tend to use don't need to balance out as much, I suppose

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

The tomatoes used for sauce often time have a higher acid content so you want a little sugar.

Some tomatoes, especially older heirloom varieties have more sugar than modern varieties and actually will make candy sauce if you’re not careful.

I spent the summer growing Cherokee purple just to make spaghetti sauce and it was like fucking dessert, no sugar added.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

If you can afford it, using good quality Italian tomatoes really make a difference.

I don't add any sugar in my sauce and it is pretty good and the acidity is at a good level.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

I only use Cento san marzanos as the base for my sauce. And i learned to make sauce from my italian grandfather. A small amount of sugar always improves the sauce.

[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Do they contain more sugars by default perhaps?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Yes, but San Marzano tomatoes that are sweeter are still only 3g of sugar per 100g, and 2g of net carbs per 100g.

And if you make a mirepoix for your sauce, the sugars in onions and carrots are higher.

So for people that are afraid of sugar, a sauce made with tomatoes, carrots, onions and celery isn't as scary as adding sugar.

And the acidity isn't considered as well. From experience, they are less acidic as well, so you don't need to add sugar to mask that.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What makes a tomato from Italy better?

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

They tend to be less acidic and a bit more sweet. If you use a mirepoix and San Marzano tomatoes, it contains all the sugar you need, and the total net carb is still low.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 17 hours ago

Counterpoint:

https://www.raos.com/products/marinara-sauce

**Ingredients: **Italian Whole Peeled Tomatoes, Olive Oil, Onions, Salt, Garlic, Basil, Black Pepper, Oregano.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Add cherry tomato while cooking pasta, season it, mix/mush, done.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] teft@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I’ve never tried stevia in tomato sauce. I’ll give it a try sometime. I’d worry about making it too sweet though since a lot of sweeteners are thousands of times sweeter than sugar.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They also taste disgusting.

I’d rather eat sugar or nothing at all over that shit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I haven't either, but I think it would work pretty well. The nice thing about stevia is that there are different products to buy with different levels of sweetness. I always put a stronger stevia extract in my tea at home that I get from Amazon because the stevia packets they have in restaurants next to the other sweeteners do not even come close to as sweet.

Then I have to use the tiny little cocaine spoon that comes with the extract to put some in my tea, and less than a full spoonful because it's so sweet.

I've also seen stevia products made specifically for baking, so that might be worth a try since I'm guessing they tried to get it 1:1 with sugar.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I know there are people who aren't supposed to eat sugar, but there really isn't anyone who doesn't like sugar. Maybe I'm wrong. If there are, probably very few. I know a ton of people who dislike stevia, it tastes like a chemical to them not a sweetener. I am one of them and I am not alone.

Edit to add: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120531102334.htm

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 19 hours ago

Yes. And I love cilantro. Taste buds can be weird. If you're just feeding yourself I'd say stevia recipes count but I wouldn't serve it to a group of people.

[–] Sandbag@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

I have done that, it's not bad, a bit bitter but still pleasant in my opinion.

Though I do like my coffee black so maybe I just have a liking of bitter tasting items.