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I’m not a vape user, but the model is the kind of thing that just makes me so angry.
In a world that makes sense:
In a world where Profit is God (the real world):
The first thing you described is literally what we used to have. God I miss the good old days of vaping.
We used to have a great vape market for those types of vapes. Since 2020 state and fed government has rinsed the market “for the kids” and basically created what we see now, a market of 98% disposable sold by overseas companies. Before that there were countless brands making batteries, tanks, etc. now a lot of smoke shops don’t even sell refillable vapes or liquid.
Yeah it's a shame. I've been vaping for 14 Yeats now and seen the whole story unfold. It really sucks.
devil told me howda get rich quick numba is 666
Edit: It's a Yeat (rapper) reference, get over yourselves guys.
... What? I used to smoke a pack a day, now I just vape. I've never seen a smoke shop that doesn't sell juice
My local shop has about 3 full 6 foot wide floor to ceiling bookcases of just disposables. Then there’s one shelf with one brand of juices and about 7 options.
Different legislation in different places. My country banned flavours, but they still sell disposables somehow.
I think part of it is something else - ease of use and ease of access.
The "world that makes sense" product exists already:
https://www.elementvape.com/box-mod-kits
While I was vaping I mixed my own liquids though, as the cost savings was immense and I could easily lower the nicotine mg/ml on my own until I quit it altogether.
Can't buy nicotine from the wholesalers anymore to do that in the US. Feds made it illegal.
Yeah, they had started limiting what you could buy in Sweden as well. My last time mixing I bought a silly amount of 18mg/ml 10ml strong menthol bottles and large 70/30 PG/VG bottles and ended up with my own 3mg/ml mixture that still tasted menthol, although not as overwhelmingly so.
Stingy on letting you make your own vape but happy to let you stuff your lip with snus. Typical Sweden.
EU is behind the restrictions for vaping liquids, not Sweden. :)
https://health.ec.europa.eu/tobacco/product-regulation/electronic-cigarettes_en
You totally can. I don't know exactly what the laws are because it's intentionally not clear but it's the same process as before, order from a diy website, it comes in the mail, make your stuff at home. I think the difference is that it's harder for websites to get the license to sell it but there are still some sites out there.
I don't vape nicotine, so those sorts of things are basically out of my reach. I wish I lived in a legal state and I could get liquid refill bottles.