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[–] scrion@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, thanks, that comic was a little too black and white in 50% of the panels - acknowledging women's rights and their role in society and abolishing child labor doesn't mean that we did not process the shit out of food and invented the unholiest abominations as substitute for actual nourishment, or that it's suddenly healthy to live in a concrete block after spending 10 hours in cloned cubicle #7.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The whole "processed food is bad for you" thing is junk science. What matters is what's in the food, not how "processed" it is.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree. When I was talking about "processed food", I was talking about food that has been processed too much, i. e. cooked to oblivion, loaded up with preservatives, artificial flavor, colors etc. to maximize profit by making it last longer, be more attractive / "tasteful" to the point of addiction (think chips) no matter the nutritional value.

Food is of course processed even in the home kitchen, and there are processing methods that are totally fine (let's say freezing, canning) and that have a long cultural tradition without adverse effects.

However, I think it's hard to dispute that industrially processed (fast) food, convenience food, snacks, super high calorie foods etc. are a real problem. I honestly also blame e. g. the expectation society has with respect to its workers who can't necessarily afford (money, time) to regularly prep healthy food at home, given the schedule imposed on them.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem isn't with the processing, though. It's too much sugar, too much of the wrong kind of fat, etc.

It's possible for a minimally-processed food to be worse for you than a highly-processed food due to the ingredients.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Didn't I just say that in the comment you replied to?

Also, ultraprocessed food is a fixed term that refers to

[...] foods [...] ready-to-eat or ready-to-heat industrial formulations made mainly with ingredients refined or extracted from foods and contain additives but little to no whole foods.

It's used as such in studies and reports.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10261019/

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

But muh buzzwords?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good news! With our new work from home policy you get to stay in your concrete block all day!

Also, in nomadic neolithic societies women were treated as equals. Agriculture was a trap.