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[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Refactoring is often necessary to ensure new features can be continuously added with ease.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, and you do it at the point you need to work on that feature. The business pay for it when they want the change.

You do not pay for the refactor with your time, if the company won't pay to fix their code. Just make it clear the risks and how bad it could be if you carry on with duct tape fixes.

You have to be strong and firm and not agree to hacks. You need to work with your team to ensure you're on the same page rather than getting undermined by cowboy dev claiming he can do the feature in 2 days when it needs 2 weeks to do the necessary work.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure, refactoring is sometimes necessary. But refactoring also introduces new bugs often. Our code base is constantly being refactoring, and it's not more reliable, stuff is constantly breaking.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell me that you don't have a test suite without telling you don't have a test suite

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why are programmers so arrogant? They do have unit tests, and a dedicated test team. Refactoring can and does introduce bugs. It's a fact.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Frankly, if your test suite isn't catching 95% or more of the bugs, there's a problem with the test suite and if uat aren't catching 95% or more of the remainder, there's a problem with uat

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How solid is the unit test coverage? What about regression tests? If you get new bugs creeping in all the time, your bug-catchers aren't doing their job

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I've said that before. I don't think they have enough regression tests, and unit tests.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I did a sting writing tests for a team that previously had none. Fun times, the things that were uncovered that day...

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 4 points 1 month ago

Refactoring for the sake of refactoring is rarely a good thing. It should be done with a clear purpose in mind.