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[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 158 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Look I fucking hated the masks but also get why we needed them and wore mine. Why the fuck does anyone care if someone else is wearing one...that for them. It like being offended someone is wearing Jordans...it's not your feet.

Leave people be and if I'm afraid I'm going to catch the plague then I'm wearing a mask.

And people can say what they will about effectiveness All I know is for 2 years I wore one and didn't catch a damn cold.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 82 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why the fuck does anyone care if someone else is wearing one

It's because all people are emotional first, and many people are stupid, too.

Seeing a mask makes them think about the pandemic, disease, mortality, death, all that heavy stuff. That feels bad. Rather than deal with that in a healthy way, they can just lash out at the thing that's bringing the bad-feels to the foreground. That is stupid. That's yelling at the smoke detector instead of doing something about the fire.

Accepting that wearing a mask is a reasonable choice means accepting a bunch of other uncomfortable things.

This can also go down the "in group good, outgroup bad" route. Belief is social. People do shit to feel like they're part of the group. Somehow wearing masks became political.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Somehow wearing masks became political.

It was Trump.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

He had a lot of help.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Amazing summation, hit every point perfectly. Bravo.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, as someone who still frequently wears a mask, I occasionally get comments, but telling the person off because they have no idea that my partner/child/sister/mom/grandparents may have compromised immune systems usually shuts them the fuck up.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

All I know is for 2 years I wore one and didn’t catch a damn cold.

I've cohabited with someone with a major immunity problem and had to take normal, established-before-covid guidelines for making sure I don't bring back a virus that would kill someone I care about. I wore a mask for months going out, washed my hands, avoided crowds. Never got sick.

So that was before covid. Imagine how it feels seeing the whole world be advised to do the same thing, and absolutely losing their collective mind about it, while millions of people died.

It will never make sense. I mean, logically I have studied psychology and have come to understand the mechanics of people's irrational, emotional reactions. What doesn't make sense is how we elected a clown that led our nation in the direction of chaos and followed his example.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Like for real what is the point of it it's like banning flip-flops that are blue it doesn't affect anyone of something person wearing the mask. If I'm not making you have to wear a mask when you go outside then shut up about it man. If I feel safer wearing when I feel safer wearing one it's not the end of the world I feel safe wearing a hat sometimes.... We're not going to ban all hats it's my choice to wear the damn hat... If I want to wear a mask I can wear a mask.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I fully expect that when they've run out of culture war ideas, current Republicans will start demanding that cars of a certain color can only park in certain spots or drive in certain lanes.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find they never do. We all just rotate things in and out every few years

[–] ConHoliousDonFrankle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the point of their politics is to start the sheep stampeding from one fear to the next, ignoring their own needs while hurting everyone around them.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I often self reflect and see just as much bullshit from my own house. The point of their politics is independence. Driven by the sense of the frontiersman in their chuck wagon. The mentality that only they can take care of them selves and government is there to take away rather than help. The left is more of a garrison mentality where everybody's actions affects each other and if any step out of line they must be thrown out beyond the walls because without working together we don't survive the winter. Especially with assholes trying to take all rations a provisions for themselves.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

I fully expect that when they’ve run out of culture war ideas, current Republicans will start demanding that cars of a certain color can only park in certain spots or drive in certain lanes.

They will find a way to associate one or two specific colors with either the queer community or antifa (red and black anyone) - and that will be how it starts.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope our history books in the future really lean hard into how stupid the population was this century.

Haha, just kidding, I know there likely won't be any history books or people. lol.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Well you have to be able to read for the books to be worth a damn

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Or how it's a coin flip if he gets a second chance.....

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You have to get into the mindset: this isn't about making sense, it's about retribution/revenge. During the pandemic, there was a period where to go certain places you had to wear a mask and/or be vaccinated. That was because there was data saying those things inhibited the spread of the virus, but many conservatives felt they shouldn't have to because of personal freedom. Now they feel turnabout is fair play, and are saying you can't go certain places if you're wearing a mask. It doesn't matter that they argued for personal freedom, this is retribution.

It used to be that antivax people held those views because they thought vaccinations caused bad things. Those people still exist, but now there are a bunch for whom it's all about personal freedom, and only because they were told they had to get a COVID vaccine.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly it. My libertarian frienemy in one breath will tell you how he bought up a bunch of N95 masks before the lockdown, specifically going against the WHO's (or was it CDC?) advice to not horde masks back in 2020. Then in the next, he'll tell you how you're afraid of life if you wore a mask during the lockdown. And then he went out of his way to make sure his kid was the only kid not required to wear a mask once schools opened up again, forbid his wife from vaccinating their son, etc.

It had nothing to do with science. He just went against whatever was recommended. For freedums or something.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Exactly. If the CDC or scientific community had said that only medical practitioner should ever wear masks, all the conservatives would have been wearing them. Of course, in that scenario, liberals wouldn't have.

Their only philosophical ideals are obstruction, retribution, and contrarianism.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cannot facial recognize the plebs if they are wearing a mask.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Don't give a flying shit about that useless boondoggle homeland security their anit American goal or objective fu k them, they should be disbanded and sent to work at dollar general.