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Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Most right wingers think their views are legitimate because the right wing exists as the direct opposition to the left. But i think that view is warped.

We need to start considering right wingers as extremists and not the opposition. They should be outliers on a spectrum where the left is much more central and the right is much more to the extreme right

|----------------------------------------left wing----‐-----center----------------------------------------right wing--------|

Like that

They think their views are as right as ours are left. If they were, they would likely be welcome here.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't really see what is wrong with authentically egalitarian politics, so I'm inclined to think the "center" is just a euphemism for right-wing.

If a left wing movement fails in its egalitarianism, like when the USSR had slave camps, then I think we should not think of that movement as left wing at all, it just fails the definition of being left wing.

The common response to this is that it is a form of no true scotsman fallacy, which I think could be a legitimate concern since you might define a left wing ideal as the definition and anything failing to live up to the perfection of that ideal is not "left". But on the other hand, I don't know how else to consider some politics authentically egalitarian and worth supporting and others inauthentic or corrupt and embodying hierarchical or right-wing tendencies. Maybe there is no bright line we can draw or reduce to a logical equation, but I would like to think there is still some value in evaluating which politics to support (i.e. which politics are furthering egalitarian means or ends).

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, discard the left-right metaphor for the nonsense that it is and refer to ideologies by their names. There is no left, there are communists/socialists and anarchists. There is no center, there are liberals and conservatives. There is no right, there are fascists and "libertarians."

The left-right metaphor is a set of training wheels, and by continuing to use them you sabotage your own political understanding.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's important to clarify what is left or right because that's how people talk and think - a lot of political language is warped or difficult to clarify. When I explain what liberals are to people in the U.S. they simply refuse to believe me. They think "liberal" can only mean "the left" and this has a whole set of assumptions built into it. When I ask them about the Liberal party in Australia they legitimately don't understand it, and it seems like people are extremely stubborn around political topics and unwilling to believe you when you say something so against their understanding.

I think whether a "communist" or "socialist" is left-wing depends on a few things, I don't consider Marxist-Leninism a left-wing movement or ideology for example.

I also tend to be skeptical that ideology is relevant to political movements, and that most of the time politics is reduced to the struggle of different constituents who pragmatically use ideology to manipulate people into supporting that constituency. Much like racism was leveraged to get the agrarian, southern whites in the U.S. to vote for the interests of wealthy landowners in that region, I think ideological promises or affiliations are often used to whip up support and then dropped once elected in favor of whatever is needed to get things done.

Sometimes I think ideology applies, it's hard to understand the particular flavor of George W. Bush's imperialism without understanding the Christian motivation to wage a religious war, but even that is ultimately more about civilizational struggle" than it is about any particular religious or theological belief.

Anyway, I just mean to say that most political language sabotages political understanding, and that maybe understanding is a tricky endeavor.

I think most conservatives are just unintelligent so they're ripe for fox news to tell them what to think. Yes, there was a study that showed conservatives are less intelligent than leftists