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Bernie Sanders to voters skipping presidential election over Israel: ‘Trump is even worse’
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😂 none of it is due to her entering late. These are all issues that have been active in past elections they havent gone away we just didnt have a primary.
Overall harris just is a shitty candidate, watch her speak. That's why shes losing.
Arabs? Silences them at every turn, actively prevents their voices.
Gaza? Immediately drops her law and order routine in favor of a genocide. Funny that. Its almost like shes doesnt have any real policies.
Lgbt+ issues tries to deflect to 'law and order' statements. Instead of personally taking a position. Yes currently the law supports things like gender affirming care in prisons. Thats not the same thing as being an ally.
Labor? Nothing to see here either. It'd upset her masters.
I think you're confusing majority with oligarchies. Most of those policies are majority supported.
Id be open to any number of policies here. Ranging from single payer, to allowing Medicare/aid funding to be applied to state single payer systems. Right now American's fund 5 different healthcare systems: the VA, federal employees, Medicare, medicaid, private. Add in obama care market places and you have 6. The overhead is absurd. Then add the second order impacts of the 80/20 split from obama care which only encourages insurance companies to pay more for care to increase their profits. Boggles my mind people think obama care was good policy.
Anyways, i can rant for ages on healthcare. You dont really want to start on that road if you think you'll have an insight that will make harris look good. ;)
Yeah because many states are pushing it on their own anyways. And she doesnt have the support from the party so we wont see it regardless. Its an easy bone with no actual substance behind it. As you're very well aware at this point. Shes just desperate and unwilling to commit to the actual things she can do. Curious you thought mentioning it would matter. 🧐
Indeed he has, and yes. Essentially my point is harris has no policy positions for labor. She doesnt get credit for biden's policies, she only gets demerits for not speaking out against the failures. Find me her policy positions on labor. Breaking the train strike was an absolute debacle for the biden admin. And they know it, its why they wouldn't touch the port strikers so close to the election. Not that they didnt want to mind you. Contrary to common belief most voters do have long memories. They just get encoded as positive or negative. They may not talk about these older issues but they are definitely taken into account.
Yes. As they should if they're in a blue state. Personally i went third party as well in my +20 blue state. Harris campaign has jack shit for americans besides not trump. She has had plenty of time to put together a positive story for her campaign but she far the best she can muster is: ignore systemic issues in health care by bribing the dying (can they even get to the polls? Im assuming its really targetting their care givers) and a 50k stipend to start a business that I'm sure if i did deeper will have so many hoops that almost no one will get it. Im happy to be blessed that i can give her the middle finger she so rightfully deserves at this point.
Most of what you're seeing from the left right now on gaza is because all the other issues are not feasible without full democratic support. Kahn/genocide are both things harris absolutely can commit to and enact on her own.
So i ask everyone again: have you called your reps repeatedly in support of gaza? Have you emails harris campaign? The sad reality is most of you think you know how to vote lesser evil and all that but your strategy is essentially guaranteed to fail. Not only will you not get concessions unless you are willing to with hold your vote but you're behavior towards people who can and do will cause them to be less likely to support your party in the future.
At this point its clear most Harris supporters are more than comfortable with a genocidal candidate. For me, i will continue voting for candidates who represent my interests which currently very few democrats do and withholding it until they do. It usually doesnt take much. Dont be an asshole, have policies that support labor. The fact most Democrats can't meet this bar is astounding.