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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This isn't weird, you just don't like fortnite.

I don't either, but I'm not exactly holding out for them to put a political ad scroll in noita.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

idk it certainly feels weird to me that videogames- even ones I don't personally enjoy- are viewed as relevant enough to get this kind of political attention.

Realistically, if I take a step back from it I'm just stuck in 2008, but.. yeah.

Besides, weird isn't necessarily a requirement here. Just 'it looks like satire but isn't'.

Also: you have excellent taste in videogames. Noita is great.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Games do feel like an oddity as political outreach, but the more I think about the idea the more I think it has capabilities (as Lancelot Brown might have put it). With legacy media like papers, books, art, film, recorded music and all, you are a passive consumer of the media. With video games as art, you are an active participant and your choices define your experience with the work. Games like Planescape: Torment, Tyranny, and Disco Elysium are great examples where you're expected to engage with political or moral ideas as a participant. You aren't being treated as a receiver of propaganda per se, but as someone who can develop understanding and agency in the context of certain ideas, which seems like an improvement over propaganda in legacy media, don't you think?

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 hours ago

Narrative-driven games give players the illusion of choice. To me this seems like it would lend itself to being even more effective than traditional propaganda because it's capable of tricking the player into thinking they came to a conclusion on their own.

Don't get me wrong, I love Disco Elysium, but it is very effective communist propaganda. Propaganda has a negative connotation but is not inherently bad or dishonest, though it certainly can be.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it is still weird. Wewve just gotten used to it.

The weirdness of that stuff is the reason people don't like fortnite.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how to have a conversation about this if weirdness has a secret definition. What is normal but the weird stuff you're used to in life?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have a comprehensive definition of "weird". But having "concerts" and election propaganda in a multiplayer shooter isn't weird to you?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I heard there have been concerts in Minecraft that were popular. Anything beats doing it in Zuckerberg's whatever thing, imo. Virtual concerts seem lame certainly, but some enjoy it.

As for election propaganda, video games are big media. Bigger than Hollywood. Whatever my preferences, it would be absurd to expect it to be some kind of ideological dead zone.

Like I said I feel pretty disinterested, but more on grounds of taste than any firm feelings of social norms.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t remember my election propaganda in real movies released during election season

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 9 hours ago

I already understand what you linked to, but that isn't stuff about specific (not even a la roman a clef) candidates released during election season

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've played Fortnite many times. I just think it's odd for a politician to create a map.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

It's certainly novel, but there aren't many voters who will object to being reached out to on their own terms. The election will be the one to decide whether it's stupid or not. It'd be far from the weirdest aspect of American culture, at any rate.