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greetings americans, it an honest question.
Outside of america i constantly see, especially recently as your elections are coming up that..well, it looks like a clownshow?

Your recent two contenders where a hugely dept orange clown who can barely keep a coherent thought advertising a product in the whitehows, who had to have his name constantly mention when being talked to or he will be disinterested.
The other one was a senile old fossil who couldnt even say a single sentence without his dementia kicking in.

Now you have trump again as a runner up and he seems so openly incompetently corrupt its almost funny, than we have the senile man who (to my extremely limited knowledge) got replaced by this kamala woman because he was too old, said woman seems to be at least present in mind and appears to see trump as what he really is, a manchild (the famous clip of her basically laguhing at him)

Like, are outside views are just so vehemently skewed by news, people and the like? Or am i just grossly misinformed?

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[–] kartoffelsaft@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've seen the occasional post here on lemmy making this point. I don't see anything factually wrong in saying she'd likely keep status quo or even make it worse. But when I see this said the one thing that I always wonder is never addressed:

How would the outcome be better if you voted against her?

Like, I have to imagine that someone making this argument thinks Trump would improve the situation. Because if that isn't the case, then this is not a decision I'm making at the voting booth, so saying she'd continue genocide as a reason to vote against her falls flat (and, if you're wondering, is why people are quick to downvote this argument). Is the hope that Trump will see the artillery shells sent to isreal as "librul policy" and axe it on that basis? Or that he'll do such a bad job that he'll get assassinated/arrested/overthrown? Something else entirely?

Enlighten me, because I can't envision Trump making anything better.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

saying she’d continue genocide as a reason to vote against her falls flat …

Who's saying that? It's not about making the situation better or worse at this point. Neither candidate wants the genocide to stop and it's debatable that it could be worsened. However, Harris is guilty of actively and materially supporting this genocide, which is more damning and disqualifying than any of allegations against Trump. Apart from that, losing the election is the closest that Harris and her party will get to actually being held accountable. Maybe this kind of feedback will get the Democrats to change their strategy. Maybe not. At least I won't be cosigning genocide.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

More damning? I would think trying to overthrow the government and trying to install himself as a dictator would be just as bad.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -1 points 1 month ago

What an incredibly deranged response. Over nine hundred families have officially been exterminated in Gaza. Realistic estimates put the death toll there over the past year well above 100,000. How many people were actually killed on January 6th?