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I assume the story itself will be updated as they go through those thousands of pages

See the documents below

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being handed the opportunity to appoint three Supreme Court judges prior to committing the act, takes it from treason to ‘sparkling presidential acts’..

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nope. That ruling doesn't apply here because he was acting as a candidate for the Presidency at the time.

A President cannot act on behalf of their campaign in an official capacity.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Or just declare it an official act prior .....

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

That's what Jack Smith argued, let's see if it holds up in court if Donnie gets elected again

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But I'm sure he can act on behalf of the country to "safe-guard" blah, blah, blah....

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He can investigate crimes as President, but he cannot attempt to circumvent the counting of the vote.

Certifying the vote is the duty of the legislative branch (Pence was acting as President of the Senate - a legislative role), and if it needs to be stopped due to legal reasons that's the jurisdiction of the judicial branch.

Separation of Powers requires that the President cannot officially act in that situation.

Furthermore, he didn't investigate any allegations that people had voted for Trump illegally.

But the biggest smoking gun on whether it was the President or Candidate Donald Trump is that Trump specifically excluded the official White House counsel from his meetings but did include his personal and campaign lawyers. That says that not only was he acting outside his official duties, but that he knew he was acting as a candidate.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not saying you are wrong; I'm saying that excuses sometimes, especially with politicians, Republicans, Trump, is enough. The dog ate my home-work. Vote. Vote all you can and get non-indoctrinated people to vote. Vote like our lives depend on it. Vote like it is you last chance to vote. Vote no matter what you think of the candidates but on which one is completely absurd and which one is not. Vote for your children and the rest of the world. Vote for not scams and lies. Vote and get people to vote.