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[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 114 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Seeing the creator write "actually," instead of "oh yeah?" somehow feels wrong.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate the skittles reference

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Is it a skittles reference or is it a reference to purple not being an actual color and thus not a part of the rainbow?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I believe it’s indigo not purple there.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

the heck do you mean purple is not an actual colour??

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Purple, the color directly between red and blue, is a creation of your mind interpreting a band of light that triggers your red and blue sensing nerves, but no green is sensed. The actual band of light we can see goes from red to green to blue. Purple doesn't fall between those colors, meaning it wouldn't be included in a rainbow, and isn't any "pure" light you could see, since it doesn't fall on the spectrum.

Essentially, any time you see purple, you're seeing two different frequencies of light that your mind interprets as a single frequency.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

ah a similar explanation to why yellow is not an actual colour either

the silly explanation that has no effect on how we perceive, use, or think about colour. sigh why are the people responsible for those studies calling those colours not real? Why not just colours resulting from mixing other colours like the artists have done since the invention of paint?

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Your definition of color is based only on human perception? Is purple a color for a mantis shrimp?

Edit: I guess not in a pure sense because it's still two wavelengths of light. Perhaps a mantis shrimp can detect a totally different wavelength and sees it as "purple" or something.

Now I'm thinking about how we don't know how other humans interpret colors. Like what I see as red, you may see as blue. Ugh.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Definition I'm using is any color that can be expressed as a single wavelength of light. Purple cannot be, since it's actually two wavelengths simultaneously.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Perceiving it as a color seems more practical though. It's not like we look at "red" and think "ah yes, a single wavelength of light"

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What is violet at the end of the visible spectrum, then? We call the higher wavelength stuff ultraviolet, and violet looks purple to me, so I'm having trouble reconciling this stuff with what you're saying.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

We call it that but our eyes see the far end frequency as a colour that only very slightly activates blue sensitive cone receptors and no others. For red sensitive cones there is a slight bump in the high end frequencies also that makes it possible for them to look violet as it activates the blue sensitive and a bit of red sensitive receptors but a much purpler purple is made by combining high and low frequencies.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Normalized-spectral-sensitivity-of-retinal-rod-and-cone-cells_fig7_265155524

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

There is evidence to show that violet does actually weakly activates red cones too. This is because the violet light starts creeping up to double the frequency of the lower end of the red sensitivity, and so it can actually successfully activate it very weakly. There are other factors that can lessen or even fully negate that effect though, it's all kind of fuzzy.