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“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

oh you see a peace coming any time soon?

explain it to me then. how do you de-escalate? israel wants to kill as many as they can in palestine, gaza, hell now lebanon, 40k+ dead, how do you get people to stand down after that?

pffttt.... wake up child.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Israel? One way or another, by sanctions, threats, politics, or actual boots on the ground, they have to be countered by force. That means a French/Spanish/Turkish (or someone else, but it almost has to include the French) contingent a few miles in from the Lebanese/Israeli border with their guns pointed in Israels directions and orders to fire if they are fired upon. And submarines ready to fire as well. And then a blockade by allied countries with a demand that the Israelis stop the murdering and land grabbing. I dont think the US would fire on the French. And once a credible force was in play, some of the middle east might consider an oil embargo to help. The Egyptians wont take up arms, but they might be persuaded to close the Suez to axis (the Israelis and their allies) ships.

Visas to citizens of Axis countries has to be curtailed as well for American citizens to wake up. That will be difficult but possible. Cut off Europe as a holiday destination and Americans will notice.

Whats your solution, just keep giving Israel whatever they want and deal with the refugees from the area? Or just let the goyim all die? I bet you have no plan at all and just exist here to troll. Lets see.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nothing is going to change as long as each side is letting their holy ideals lead them into war.

both sides.

but get rid of bibi tho, that's a first for any progress.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm sure the forced displacement of 700,000 people and the very reason they keep saying they are fighting has nothing to do with it, and its all because of religion. Thats a nice neat reaosn you can tie up with a bow. cool.

Say, do you know why Osama said he attacked the world trade center?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I’m sure the forced displacement of 700,000 people and the very reason they keep saying they are fighting has nothing to do with it, and its all because of religion.

what do you think lead to the displacement? how can you get this madness without religious dogma driving people to see each other as the enemy on both sides?

Osama wasn't religiously motivated at all lol pfft

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heres some of Ben Gurions more human quotes that show you where he was at when Israel was founded. (the rest if his are pretty bloodthirty) Does this look like religious hatred to you or just a desire to steal land?

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

but why steal that land?

the entire planet to choose from, and that land?

Why do you think that is?

come on you can do it, put the parts together...