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“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you think what’s happening in Gaza is purely religious in nature

I argue it couldn't happen WITHOUT the influence of monotheistic madness.

Pray tell, without the religious fervor on all sides, how long would any of it last? for fucks sake, be realistic

edit: and your thesis, that Palestine is fighting a purely secular battle - is absolutely absurd. Explain the atrocities on oct 6 without theology, it doesn't make you seem better, it's damning.

ffs people, stop with the silly fucking excuses

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're building a straw man, you're the one asserting that religion is solely to blame when it's just a tool that's being applied as part of a larger more complex problem.

This situation could just as easily have a secular socialist resistance fighting the colonizer, similar to some of the Kurdish resistance groups fighting ISIS and in Syria.

The reason for the conflict is that a colonizing state operating an apartheid government is committing genocide on the people living there to expand their control and territory. Illegal settlements aren't there because of Judaism they're there because of imperialism.

Religion is being exploited on both sides as an excuse and to motivate the people, but it's not the root cause.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Illegal settlements aren’t there because of Judaism they’re there because of imperialism.

facts disagree.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/longform/2024/3/19/how-israeli-settlers-are-expanding-illegal-outposts-amid-gaza-war

"The outpost builders are often driven by an ultra-hardline ideology that demands Jews populate all of Palestinian land and force Palestinians out."

Two thirds are ideologically motivated - Haredim or Zionists. https://israelpolicyforum.org/west-bank-settlements-explained/

How do you go from secular motivation to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_tag_attack_policy

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hardliners-violently-expel-palestinians-to-expand-israeli-settlements-in-west-bank Eiyar insists the violence is caused by Palestinians refusing to accept what she sees as her biblical right to live on this disputed land, which they call Judea and Samaria, and that the only solution is for as many Israelis as possible to move here.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THAT MADNESS WITHOUT RELIGION?

BIBLICAL RIGHT?

So please, provide evidence it's all secular. Religion is the root, it's fucking rotten, it's infected the entire region, and it's only going to get worse.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're painfully ignorant. Nobody is saying religion isn't a factor, you're saying it's the only factor.

We get it you're an enlightened atheist, but that doesn't mean things aren't more complex

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've provided evidence for my thesis. all you have are insults and posturing.

have a great day.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 month ago

Elon Musk and Trump are defenders of free speech because they said so. Everything they do is explained honestly by their words. They're not using a concept people are emotional about to push an agenda. They really really mean it. It's that simple.

Must be nice to live in your world