this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
600 points (96.6% liked)
Technology
58593 readers
4025 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
they're pretty bad, but ddg at least feels like I'm getting actual results.
Yeah DDG is great. The only thing I find is its not good at local results but a quick !g on the end gets me the local results im looking for.
Holy shit the bangs work at the end of the search query too!? I've always painfully pressed Home on my keyboard to add a !g whenever I realise I had better searched this on Google
What does !g do? Add Google results?
Redirects your search to Google. You can put it anywhere in the search; for example
!g how do i shot web,how do i shot web !gandhow do i !g shot webwill all land you into Google.There are other 13k (yup) bangs like this. Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Yahoo, Quora, most gaming wikis, etc. A few sites (like Google and Bing) have multiple bangs, that land you directly into a specific page (e.g. !bv searches Bing videos). More info here.
*how do i shot web
I'll fix it! I forgot that this is like "an hero", one of those memes where the error is part of the charm.
It's an older meme, but it checks out.
Bang Bang
If you’re using ddg without !bangs - you’re only having half the fun.
!w Wikipedia
!imdb IMDb
!gi Google images
there's tons more. if ddg is the default search engine these bangs save you the time to go to the site first and click the search bar. basically changing your default search into a specific search.
oh, good tip. I didn't know about that.
you tack !g to the end of whatever the resulting search URL is?
Can be anywhere in the search.
"cute dogs !g" "!g cute dogs" "cute !g dogs"
Those all work the same, though clearly one is more cursed than the others. They have those for a bunch of other sites as well, for example if you want to search YouTube specifically/directly you can use !yt but I can't kick the habit of just going to those sites first and then searching directly on there.
Yes DDG Bangs are a great fast way of getting around the web. Works really well with LibRedirect. Here's a Full List of DDG Bangs.
That's how I felt until about a month ago, now ddg is really useless
I prefer DDG, but I hate the news search. 90% of the results are paywalled.
Oh, and sometimes the image search will return a pile of porn for a seemingly clean search request. I once searched for "R34 Skyline" expecting Nissans, and got VERY different results without safe search.
Searching for R34 is on you. Naming something R34 is on Nissan. The popularity of R34 is on all of us.
R34 is also short for rule 34 - "if it exists, there's porn of it on the internet"
So if you search R34 and anything, you'll get porn.
Now I want to see some skyline porn
Here you go!
spoiler
according to Architecture Today, that structure is sexual in nature.
Thanks for making me feel inadequate...
Drake might have the Six, but I have the Eight, if you know what I mean
I mean my dicker
I was very worried about zooming in on this expecting something bad. My innocence is lost… wait no I never had any. My bad.
Every search engine I've encountered is weird about porn. At first it decides whether or not you're looking for porn or not looking for porn. If it assumes you are then all the actual porn hits are promoted to the top, where non-porn hits are down-ranked. Vice versa, if it decides you're not looking for porn.
Once of the fun search engine games is to find out what sets of ambiguous words trigger the porn flag. Pure tended to be one due to a brand name, even when I was looking for pure minerals at the time. Siri created some conflicts, since there's both a well known LLM digital assistant, rule 34 for the same and a popular porn star.
I'd really like a search engine that let porn sites fall in the hit list without deciding first whether I was trying to look for porn, since I sometimes do metasearching.
News orgs clinging to tradition.
i use archive.is for anything I really want to read.
most news is fluffy bullshit anyway.
Agree. It’s an important part of media literacy these days.
For political news, I’m only interested in what was actually said, not what is reported to be said .
It's just that Bing/DDG seem to promote news from these sites as if they're sponsored links... but without the disclosure.
I'm pretty sure here in the states, a site is obligated to identify ad content and sponsored content, so when a big company like Microsoft or Alphabet is doing it (Bing and Google) it makes me wonder if there's been a recent carve-out or relaxation of the reg.
That makes the return adversarial to the end-user, hence the point of the regulations.
bummer.
I see all the labeled sponsored links on Bing, but I generally get high quality results outside of those.
You know that's just Bing, right?
is it? that kind of makes sense, because I still use Bing occasionally while Google is completely out of rotation, although I don't find Bing as good as duckduckgo.
edit: it is not! looks like the DuckDuckGo search engine is an aggregate of hundreds of search engines, including their own duck duck bot, excluding Google but including some Bing results.
Their FAQ hems and haws about that, but (in the past) I've done side-by-side tests and found identical results. Maybe something's changed, maybe it hasn't.
it must have done by now, then, I get different results from identical prompts in DuckDuckGo and Bing although both are usually relevant.
"DuckDuckGo's results are a compilation of "over 400" sources according to itself, including Bing, Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha, Yandex, and its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot); but none from Google."
are you having trouble finding something specifically or you just don't like the quality of the search results you're finding in general?
definitely if you're still on Google, stop using it.
It's completely useless at this point.
DDG often gives me results for individual words of the search but not results for all of the words in that order for which to have contextually relevant results.
I often find myself forced to brave the shitshow that is google search.
that's weird. the search results should still prioritize your search as is over variations, but not limit it. do you try searching in quotations to force the specific search exactly?
have you tried the duck assist thing yet?
If you're trying to talk to the search engine more like a chat assistant, that sort of response might be what you're looking for.
Fuck Duck Assist all my homies hate Duck Assist and I keep having to turn it back off again.
Whoever made it should get cancer and not have their children show up or call them back.
haha, whaaat why?
I just saw it for the first time today, it seems to mostly quote incredible sources rather than amalgamating responses.
you got some issues huh, poor fella?
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you want to defend an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets, but maybe you should go eat some ass?
"I'm sorry I hurt your feelings"
I feel only pity for you.
reading your comments is like watching a diseased guinea pig nibble on its own scabs.
"an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets"
duckduckgo's llm tool offers relevant information from credible sources.
that is good.
Good luck unbunching those panties.
Lmfao
Too many big words for you?
I'm sincerely glad they make you laugh.
You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol
Too many big words for you?
"You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol"
you clearly need help.
The statement you provided says exactly what I said in greater detail, that the duck duck Go llm verifies apparently factual statements with credible third-party sources, you are literally providing further evidence for my comments while proving yourself incorrect.
it is funny watching you proving yourself wrong, though, and you should keep doing it.
I hope you find another source that further supports what I'm saying while completely backfiring against your proud ignorance.
Lmfao
yep, just like that.