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This poster disagrees that it was guilty of Sealioning. That's amusing.
Dear reader, let's look at what Sealioning is.
In short, it's a form of trolling. Sealioning is defined specifically by the following characteristics:
Sealioning isn't an exact match for this poster's behaviour, but it's damn close. Little petty grammar and spelling nazi comments. Intruding into other people's DMs without permission. Constantly hiding behind the community rules. Using and abusing the fuck out of laws of civility and this community, while having zero intention to do anything but be disruptive, annoying, insulting, condescending, and otherwise just plain unpleasant, secure in the knowledge that we can't call it out for what it is because the Mods have handcuffed us with these silly 'be civil' rules.
The mods have actually tagged this poster with a three day timeout for being a troll. I don't think that gives me permission to carte blanc call this poster a troll, but I can at least point out every time I see it pushing its latest nonsense that the moderator team here has suspended its access for 3 days for trolling. We'll see if the mods let that stay up. Given the nonsense that the mods have let stay up for the person they put in time out for being a troll, I hope it will. Kind of like calling out a convicted thief as a thief, or a convicted fraudster as a fraudster. Just with a silly extra step because we wouldn't want to be uncivil to someone who is wanting to be uncivil to us.
The modlog is public: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
My posts do NOT come out every 18 minutes, 24 hours a day. That's 100 percent false. You can just look at the time stamps and see that's false. The time frames mentioned are averages, not actual posting intervals. It's not literal, friend.
And as you just mentioned, the mods banned me for 3 days. I've had comments removed when they thought I went too far, just as you have had. So no, I don't get any preferential treatment from them, nor have I ever asked. No one is "handcuffed" when it comes to speaking out against me.
@jordanlund@lemmy.world would you like to jump in and address his concerns regarding the modding activity of this community?
This poster seems to have forgotten the times it 'slid up in my DMs' to 'check up on me'...I haven't. :)
This is the poster's posting history from my perspective. 1490+ posts. 3410+ comments. That's over a 61 day period. That's 4900 posts and comments, which comes out to 80 posts and comments a day, 3.347 posts per hour, or roughly once per 17.9 minutes.
The receipts are up there. Thanks @SatansMaggotyCumFart for the work of figuring out this poster's utter dedication to posting.
The time frames mentioned are averages, not actual posting intervals.
It doesn't mean I post every 17.9 minutes nonstop around the clock. We all understand what averages are, right?
I’m not ashamed at all of my post history; it’s public. I'm actually proud when you all post it and I stand by everything I've said and don't regret any of my posts! :)
But if you’re interpreting or implying an average as a precise, continuous posting schedule, then the real issue is our education system, not my activity.
See? This is the bullshit this poster throws out when confronted.
NOBODY is going to go make a scatter-graph of this poster's posting habits to show how often it's on posting. We're just going to do the easy maths. Like I just did. ON AVERAGE this poster makes a comment every 18 minutes. If it sleeps 8 hours, we would divide 80 by 16, and the posting rate becomes an even more insane once per 12 minutes, every waking moment of the day. And then we start asking other uncomfortable questions, like...'does this person work for a living? Or is this person's work posting on here for a living?' Not where I think this poster wants us to start drifting in our thinking, I don't think.
But that fits with the ban for trolling this poster got. It knows that once every 18 minutes, or once every 12 minutes sixteen hours a day, or once every six minutes eight hours a day looks bad, so it starts distractifying with the nonsense that I'm saying straight out that it stays up 24/7/365 which would make it a bot or at least a group of people operating on 24 hour shifts. I'm just saying that if you average it all out, this poster is dedicating ridiculously stupidly large amounts of time to force it down our throat that it's voting third party.
Again. I'm only interacting with this poster because we're not crushing Trump 70 to 30. Were we, I'd not even bother with this foolish human (?) -- let it waste its vote if it wants, that won't make Trump more likely. But somehow, Trump is pulling 49.8% in some very scary places, and we ALL need to be all hands on deck, and the only reason you wouldn't be is if you don't mind if Trump wins and fucks the entire goddamn country in the process.
They throw out weird bs because it's more than one person and they're confused
I wanted to say this, but it's kinda forbidden around here to do that. :)
Well, then maybe don't post my stats if you can't back them up. But as you are admitting now, the numbers you're talking about are averages, they're not literal timing intervals. I'm actually proud of my posting numbers. Not embarrassed at all.
Not uncomfortable for me. I've mentioned my occupation several times. In fact, there was a whole chain of one poster mocking me for what I do for a living and the low pay I get! I'm a teaching assistant in an underserved, undefunded public school. I'm not uncomfortable or embarrassed about it. I love what I do!
Nah, I don't think I will listen to what this poser is saying...err, sorry, POSTER. Missed a T there. I swear it was accidental. :)
I approve of this list wholeheartedly. I'm not sure how y'all aren't getting blocked btw. This dude blocked me so fast lol. I must've struck a nerve with them.
Can you link the comment he blocked you on? Maybe that'll give me an idea of how to get him to block me. :3
Sure! They are very upset when they get banned. Here's what got me blocked: https://lemm.ee/post/41544765/14617811
A couple messages later they blocked me. They later unblocked me for a few minutes and that was super weird.
Oh, I remember that thread. Mr. Monk here got all bent out of shape thinking that the person who replied to its thread was calling it a shill or plant, when it was obvious the commenter was referring to the subject of the article, the "Libertarian" who dropped out when it became clear he was drawing more votes from Democrats than Republicans, a shill or plant. I laughed at that. Dude has a persecution complex for sure. And then he accused you of being an admin of that instance he got banned on? I really want to post a Bugs Bunny "What a maroon" meme, but the mods might delete the comment for attacking Monk. So I'll just say the convicted Sealion sure acts like a fool...
I actually had nothing against the article, but this was one of them that clued me in that this guy was nothing good.
Yeah. I especially like that I supposedly created a Lemmy instance with a very specific name (associated with West Virginia, no less..?) a year ago, waited 10 months, banned the troll from it, then waited another month or so to come taunt him about it. And of course to keep this all secret, I use an account on lemm.ee! muAhAH
The actual takeaway here is that he gets really butthurt when banned. Might have to do with the fact that reddit banned him. I saw a post here on Lemmy that claimed UniversalMonk was also a reddit shitposter for a decade or more. Wouldn't surprise me if true
Source: https://lemm.ee/post/44398287
Any luck getting banned so far? I bet if you point out their reddit ban, that'd do it.
Nah. I really haven't spent that much time on that poster. I have a life, and I think the mods are trying to tell me 'engage with this person less'. It's sad that the Mods aren't taking this behaviour by this poster more seriously. All I can really do is call it out on its BS, and wait until after the election when its BS won't be as effective at depressing Dem turnout. That's all I'm really waiting for. The sad thing is we will be playing this game again in 2028 because this kind of BS is more effective than it should be, given the cruelty and stupidity of the average American voter.
Okay... Well you asked how to get banned by them.
The :3 was me trying to convey cat-like mirth and humour. ;3 But thanks for letting me know how you managed to get this user to shut up.
[cat hissss]
Again, we are talking averages, remember? We already figured out that it's not literal. I don't post every 12 minutes. Remember our last conversation from 3 minutes ago? You even admitted it's not literal, and here you are going again like it is literal. You know, there are time stamps on comments and posts...lol
Also, are you at work right now, while you are replying to me? Because we're actually replying to each other right now. I don't work nights, but I don't know about you.
We are both replying to each other in real time right now. Think about that for a second. Are you stealing time from your employer because you are replying to me right now? Or is it simply that you are home right now, like me?
You're free to believe what you want to, friend. If ya don't like my explanations, that's cool with me. I've just posted some more stuff too, so my stats are updating again. Thank you!
Bye, Mr. Convicted Sealion. For now, at least. ;)
Thanks for the conversation. Bye! :)
And this is the problem. You're the kid who keeps shitting in the pool. Because it makes you laugh and everyone else hates you for it.
As I've stated before, we've discussed Monk's account between the admins and the mods, the consensus opinion is that they have shitty opinions, but having shitty opinions is not a TOS violation.
Curious, can a user be banned/moderated for a DM they send? They've messaged me before, in let's just say a ...different... tone than they use in comments. Dude even invented some bizarre story about me... It's something.
That would be outside the scope of moderation, but DMs have a report option that goes to the Admins of their instance and your instance.
Admins can and do ban people for that. As a mod, I've had to report more than a few DMs myself.
I'm going to be honest with you. My problem isn't this person's opinions. It's his behaviour. And you're slowly beginning to see it. This guy is a classic sea-lion, to use your own reasoning for his ban. He is hounding. Boastful and gloating. Disruptive and combative, while hiding behind a veneer of faux civility. Disrespectful of any dissent. And with a behaviour that sure seems like he might just be three raccoons in a trenchcoat, each with a phone, to put a humorous twist on an accusation you probably wouldn't let stand given past history. I'm saying there's plenty of TOS violations (multiple Rule 3 and Rule 4) right in front of your face, if you'd only see them.
But that's OK. This is not my community to admin. Your community, your rules, and your enforcement. I also get the stress of dealing with people who think you're not doing enough things or the right things on adminning a community; being a mod is a thankless job with scores of people who think you're doing it wrong. Note that I wasn't the one who drew your attention to this thread for an example of that. I'll live within the letter of your law, though I will definitely point out where I see discrepancy in enforcement. I can't call this poster a troll, Russian Asset, Paid Actor, or Bot, but I will point out that this user has been banned for 3 days for being a sealion by the admin team after over a month of constant anti-social behaviour. That should be within the letter of the law, right?
I still think you're treating Monk with kid gloves while coming down on us like a ton of bricks, requiring us to give this...person respect he's totally and completely unwilling to give us, but again, your community, your rules, and my only real option is deal with it or go somewhere else. I'm not letting this jerk run me off from an otherwise nice community, so here I am.
PS: This is what this poster sent to me.
Schoolyard bully approach with an extra dose of gloating asshole behaviour. Also, I never said this poster can't post what it wants. I've said that its posting history is highly suspect (back to my three raccoons in a trenchcoat analogy), sure, and that I disagree with much of what it posts, and that it is pulling for Trump/Putin with everything it posts, but it is allowed to post what it wants. It just has to deal with all the negative comments and downvotes when it posts its inane drivel.