Failure to vote to stop evil, when you have the full knowledge and capability, is the same as doing evil yourself. Anyone alive today under 100 and over 18 that has not been voting the most radical left candidates running --regardless of "electability or party-- is at least partly responsible. And yes that means you if you've voted dem since they gave up gore for w bush.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're correct in most of the world, where instant runoff is the norm. But drag thinks we should also let the Americans know that they should be voting Democrat, since they have a broken system where only votes for the two biggest parties are counted. Any American who didn't vote for every Democrat president is almost as responsible for climate collapse as the Republicans.

[–] basmatii@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Broken systems don't get fixed from within, especially by a party that helped make it this broken.

And there hasnt been a dem that did anything at all regarding climate change since gore gave up and sold useless carbon credits.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's right. That's why we need a revolution. And that's why we pick the shark with fewer teeth until we're organised enough to do it. You can't fix the US electoral system by voting. Voting third party isn't going to save the world. You need to give up on your false hope that your vote is for doing good. Your vote is for delaying the bad. You delay the bad by voting Democrat.

[–] basmatii@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't delay the bad. Homelessness rose faster under Obama and Biden than bush or trump. Not that the latter two were better in any meaningful way, just the facts as they are. Voting democrat does nothing, voting Republican does nothing. It will always just end up with you worse off. Sometimes, randomly, sooner, sometimes later. If it were as easy as vote Dems to slow down the bad, things wouldn't have degraded for so many so badly that Trump was considered a good candidate to them.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If homelessness rose under Obama, why is homelessness lower in 2016 than in 2008? If homelessness didn't rise under Trump, why is homelessness higher in 2020 than in 2016? Drag thinks somebody lied to you about these figures. Drag thinks you should re-evaluate your understanding of politics.