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You taught me something. Thanks for sharing the wisdom stranger. 👈😎
You should get some more diverse opinions then. Read it again through the lens of a confederate trying to preserve slavery. Or a straight person that doesn't understand LGBT issues. Or someone that's fortunate enough to not need healthcare (right now). Or someone that doesn't see the effects of climate change on their doorstep. Or someone that hasn't lost a family member to gun or vehicle violence. This isn't wisdom, it's sociopathy.
It seems you don't understand 🤷
I understand sociapathy. What I don't understand is why you or anyone else sympathizes with it. Your own handle has "socialist" in it yet you're swooning over some libertarian drivel from a person that doesn't think laziness even exists. Spoiler - it does.
All right for starters, lazyness doesn't exist he was exactly right there. I mostly here this idea from other leftists. If you were a farmer and planted a bunch of seeds and some of those seeds never grew you wouldn't say they're lazy seeds You'd Stay their environment sucked and work on changing the soil or plant different seeds suited to that environment.
People are the same way as seeds. Our behavior changes based on environment. we are constantly ashamed for being lazy for not wanting to work that's not true, the environment just sucks ie the soil should be worked on, we should blame the farmers(ie the wealthy and powerful, those with real agency) not the seeds (working class people with less agency like you and me).
The only way these people whether it be the wealthy or politicians maintain power over so many of us is by somehow tricking us into prioritizing their wants and needs over our own. No evil empire exists in a star of wide spread selfish anarchy. For something like that to exist you need tons of people in that Empire who will prioritize it over themselves. The over whelmingly vast majority of not all people who are under the boot of capitalism and imperialism would be better off without it and it is in their own self-interest to pursue getting it the fuck off of them. That's a selfishness I can get behind.
The best motivated to get people active politically is to promote their own selfish interest. Shaming people into voting for someone they don't want to doesn't work. For example Hillary Clinton in 2016. You have to get your base excited for things that are in their own selfish interest.
I think there might also be a point of miscommunication. I'm not saying caring about the interests of others is bad in fact I think we are our best when we look after others but that doesn't mean we shouldn't pursue our own selfish interest as well. For example I'm not affected directly by the genocide and cause of but I yell people about it almost every day not sure if I'm helping but I'm trying. At the same time it is very much in my personal self-interest to change how housing is done in the US. I will pursue that very selfishly.
Does that help?
No, not really. People aren't seeds, we have agency. A seed does not. You can believe that laziness doesn't exist but that doesn't make you correct. You're just playing semantics with language. Laziness exists just as much as sadness or aggression or rage or fulfillment, these are all valid abstract nouns and concepts that we've ascribed meaning as part of language.
I don't understand how you can compare people to something as simple as a seed yet still have a whole conversation about interests. Do you not see how these aren't compatible ideas? Do we have free will or not?
Stranger, I don't care what you think. If you disagree, my life goes on. Just trying to share a useful way of thinking with you 🤷 I don't have an objective to care to play a semantic game with you. As the kids say "it's not that deep".