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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I actually really appreciate the rational response to this that people have had about waste fruit, the rotting, and the food chain that follows the fallen fruit.

I had wanted to plant a few fruit trees in my front yard and allow neighbors to just take fruit off of it. Lots of people walk up my 0.5mi dead-end road.

But then I remembered what every PYO farm is like...tons of rotting fruits sitting at the bottom of all of them. And any apple someone picks that isn't 100% perfect gets tossed in the pile.

That's a lot of maintenance. Totally doable for an individual or small group to maintain a small patch. Gets really difficult to scale up.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 1 month ago

It's worth keeping in mind though, if you want to feed people: we can just do that, we have the food and we have the infrastructure. Every person going hungry in a city with edible food in bins, produce discarded for not looking right and so on is going hungry because of policy decisions.

It is cheaper, healthier, and more successful to just distribute the food we already grow, make and transport than trying to turn everything into an orchid.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not terrible, but it's also not great. Fruit trees by their nature produce just mountains of fruit for a single tree. I came from a large farming family and we had a few fruit trees. So much of it ends up on the ground and rotting (which, not so bad since it was in a field, a nightmare if it were in the suburbs).

If you really want one, you NEED to maintain the tree. That means cutting branches to make sure the tree doesn't grow up and instead grows out. It also means constant maintenance to make sure branches aren't overloaded (growing out means they have a higher risk of breaking).

Regular trees are already a PITA to take properly maintain, fruit trees are another level.

And even with all that, you'll still end up with a bunch of rotting fruit on the ground. Birds, insects, etc will nibble at your fruits. You'll simply miss the 50 fruit the ripened early or late. It's just going to be a headache no matter what you do.

And it's a lot of fruit. 1 tree can easily make enough fruit for 20 people. That comes in all at once.