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[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Never done any recreational drugs.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that including cigarettes and alcohol or are you only talking about the ones that are federally illegal?

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Never smoked a cigarette, but I do try a drink now and then. I find the phrase "drugs & alcohol" relevant here in that they're different categories.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah they are. One is less hassle, comes with no stigma and therefore no stress. "Why yes I have had a drink, officer, but just the one."

Also if you're a lightweight like me, you reach your limit at 2 pints. With cannabis? Who the hell knows, the quantities and potencies are still being standardized, and if you want to mix a lighter load you have to mix in more tobacco which is another stimulant.

No thanks, I'll have my brown lake water with 3% alcohol mixed in please.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

no stigma has nothing to do with anything. people do die from its usage (or the consequences of its usage). It is more toxic than a lot of other "harder" drugs. It can ruin lives and break up families just as well. we're talking about what it is, not how it is perceived. I am also not implying you should smoke weed instead. Everyone has their drug of choice. To each their own. But make no mistake, it's a drug nonetheless.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s why people smoke it. You can feel how high you are with each puff and can control it easily.

Weed may be strong, but it isn’t fentanyl. One toke over the line is not the danger zone—even less so than one alcohol shot over the line.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not for me. I don't know why, but it makes me loopy. With beer, your liver builds a tolerance to it over time and your mind learns to not say certain things when under the influence. With weed, that tolerance is 100% mental as far as I can fathom, and I'm just too weak-willed under its influence apparently.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The tolerance isn’t totally mental, it just takes longer to build and recede than alcohol does.

To each their own though, not trying to pressure anybody.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

where does the tolerance come from though? With alcohol it's very clear that there's one organ doing the heavy lifting. With weed, I have no idea.

To each their own though, not trying to pressure anybody.

Of course! Likewise, I'm not trying to shame anyone for picking weed over beer. Each to their own

Edit: Apparently it's "CB1 receptor density" in your brain that handles the tolerance.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

With alcohol it's very clear that there's one organ doing the heavy lifting

It’s not your liver, it’s your GABA receptors downregulating that gives you a tolerance. Your liver helps with the duration and hangover but the lower peak intoxication is mediated by the receptors. Likewise with cannabis, your THC receptors downregulate to give you a weed tolerance. It is also processed by the liver.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Indeed, a lot of drugs that are non toxic have tolerance created in the brain, while more toxic drugs have to get processed by the kidneys and liver, which is why the functioning of those organs contributes to tolerance.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Apples and fruit. Cement and building materials. Giraffes and animals. Alcohol and drugs.

[–] ThirdEyeSlime@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? I've just never been interested on altering my mood or perceptions using an external source. I don't even like the effects of alcohol.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's so cool to see what happens to your brain with the effects of various chemicals. We're so convinced of our own sanctity, and feeling the world differently just disavows you of that in a few minutes.

I think LSD should be a common coming of age right. We'd all be better off, and better for each other, if we could realize we're each just a tiny blip in the world.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

From what I've learned about LSD and psilocybin in popular science they do sound like effective tools for depression, PTSD and enhancing creativity. I don't have the means or the will to try and get it or experiment with illegal substances. I think therapies should definitely be developed around their application though. A coming of age right would also be very interesting.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Never been so blasé about your life that you opened your friend's parent's medicine cabinet and recklessly took whatever prescriptions you found in there in a desperate attempt to get high and escape reality?

Good for you!

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is it OK to feel sorry for you? The thought of doing this has never even crossed my mind. People would describe me as a very optimistic and happy person though. I guess I just don't need any drugs for escape, although I do enjoy jumping into a video game and beating up some bad guys. Dynasty Warriors is great therapy.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I feel sorry for who I was.

But I escaped all that, and I have a lot of family and love and caring all around me now. Drug free for decades.