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[–] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My point is that children lack the understanding of what caused this. It’s the reaction of the adults / role models in their life that will radicalise them.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstand how people grow up and introspect. There is a lot in childhood that will give an initial push and motivation, and it is not a desire to live up to their parents or other adults, and their desires. As people grow up they desire individuality, and their own life.

Role models can be a part, but these are usually exceptional people in some way. But at this point, wrt the topic, you should consider why these role models exist, and what they stand for. Not immediately jump to the conclusion of smth smth propaganda. If you want that discussion you should very specifically define the term of propaganda.

[–] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve worked quite extensively with youth, including in radicalisation prevention. Children model their lives after adults. The term role model is simply different for children and for older people.

You are mixing up a lot of terms here without actually defining for what age group you want to apply them. So yeah, I can say with a lot of confidence that the death of young children is horrible, but it’s not the driving factor behind radicalisation. The reaction of the people around is.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I dont apply to a specific age group. From my personal understanding, as people grow up (and of course it depends heavily on education, culture), people will have strong memories from childhood and will reflect on them throughout life.

Hardships would likely cause people to not want their children to have hardships. Loss would likely cause vengeful directions to be righteous.

It's only if the losses or hardships (over their life) are resolved do they go away, otherwise, it is fuel for fire. Whether radicalized or not. In this case, I would like to know what you perceive as radicalized here. I would only attribute terroristic desires or genocidal intentions, or other inhumane (as defined by international law) goals as radicalization.

It is not radical at all to want vengeance, or to punish for pain inflicted. It's natural and even lawful if done within confines of agreed law, and many times required, otherwise anyone can do anything without objection or accountability.