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apt install firefox (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 54 points 4 days ago (6 children)

This is why I switched from Ubuntu to Debian.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

Same here. What especially irritated me was that even though I installed the .deb firefox and followed the directions to disable snap firefox, occasionally Ubuntu went ahead and reinstalled snap firefox for me.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ubuntu was great, until Unity debacle, when I switched to Mint DE. Few years later I returned to an Unity free Ubuntu just to be welcomed with snaps and Ubuntu pro.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 17 hours ago

Canonical have made the same mistake three times as far as desktop environments are concerned, IMO:

  1. 2004: went with GNOME
  2. 2010: made Unity as a way to rid themselves of the hostility of the GNOME devs
  3. 2017: Instead of leaving GNOME in the dust, they went back.

IMO using GNOME is an abusive relationship.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

debian is the best

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For me it was when I was trying to use some Android tools and it tried to install the snap version. The snap version was broken of course.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

When I first returned to Linux several years ago I started with Ubuntu, since it was the only distro I had used. I got confused when I installed Firefox and other apps via apt but instead got snap versions. This (very miniscule) gripe is enough of a reason for me to not recommend Ubuntu to new users anymore.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It's not a miniscule gripe tho. Snap is still broken for many users, and relying on it for something as critical as a web browser is asking for trouble. Experimental technologies like snap should be opt-in for users who are willing to deal with the issues they create. Do they really expect a novice to see firefox's filepicker not behaving correctly, and think "Aha, an XDG desktop portal issue! Let me drop everything I'm doing and go troubleshoot that" ? Ubuntu is meant to be linux for normies, they don't have the time or the knowledge to deal with snap.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Ubuntu is dead on the desktop.

[–] toaster@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How has your experience been so far?

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 3 days ago

Exactly that same, really. There were a few things I did that I liked about Ubuntu, like the tray icon extension, but otherwise its nearly identical minus snaps.

[–] needanke 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

installs Firefox LSR

(I am still very happy having made the switch to debian, although I would like to switch to plasma 6 at some point xD)