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[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (18 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

Good point, but it brings up the question of whose responsibility is it to actually disseminate such information after a point?

Is it up to the media to non-stop crow about it so everyone is aware, or are a handful of articles from a source that isn't widely used?

NPR is sadly not even in the top 10 news sources used by Americans. The Daily Mail, a fucking right wing shitrag from the UK is in the top ten.

So, is it up to citizens who have been informed to spread the word, or is it up to the news media to not let up on serious issues and stop sanewashing a specific candidate.

Arguably, CNN has written about Project 2025 a lot, and it's in the top 10, but has also used a lot of passive voice that has allowed Trump to avoid connection with Project 2025.

So, it's not so straightforward. It can easily be argued major news sources are sanewashing Trump, spending time critiquing Harris for small things while not dedicating as much time to serious issues from the Trump campaign.

It can also be easily argued that Project 2025 has been covered a great deal, but that a lot of people still don't know what it is or understand it or its importance to the election.

I think that's the question: What are our actual expectations for our news media? Is writing about it once enough? Is it their responsibility to hammer the issues or is it the responsibility of the citizens?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think we need different incentives than profit when it comes to information sharing. Maybe a profit motive isn't the best thing for a "news" source to have. Especially when ratings seem to be tied to ragebait and hate.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Journalists and editors need to eat. And the problem is if the government gets involved and funds it, well let’s just say that ends badly. Not even the post office is allowed to run without being fucked with by republicans, and then they are somehow forced to turn a profit, when they are also forced to run in a way that is antithetical to making profit based decisions. And now you have the government deciding for the news, what is biased. And no more reporting on government officials that aren’t just puff pieces.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not impossible, however. While the BBC indeed has a lot of problems on its own, it's actually been relatively well separated from the British government. They've had more issues with covering up for their own celebrities like Jimmy Savile, rather than covering for the government.

But yes, journalists need to eat and they're being paid so little that it results in the kind of media landscape we have now. We no longer have a host of long-form investigative journalists who are given months to research and develop stories. The 24 hour news cycle has reduced everything to minimal impact and journalists having to pump out stories without real depth.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ok…. And you assume this will be true… if an American government… who established a Russian asset as president, is attempting to defund private schools so that they can give money to certain religious orgs and push a Christian message, who is trying to privatize the post office, and who refuse to answer to war crimes is a good environment to take control of the news media?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't argue that at all, but you do you on putting words in my mouth.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I didn’t attempt to. Just saying. You said it wasn’t impossible for government owed news media to dutifully report against the government. Maybe not, but our country’s kinda stacked the deck against that

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the issue is the profit motive encompasses all industries and forces them to a race to the bottom. Innovation is eaten alive for profits, nothing goes back into the company, and the shareholders reign supreme. This is simply an example of what capitalism does to journalism, nothing more.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not sure why we need share holders at all. Not sure what function they serve. A business can remain active without the stock market if they produce value. They could innovate and not necessarily be wholly motivated by profit above all else.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
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