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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 71 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Markets? Events? Pop up cafes?

Naaaah. Parking!

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Won't anyone think of the poor suburbanites? These walkable cities are so hostile to them, where can they park their chevy suburban megacab ultrawide edition?

[–] Wrufieotnak 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Even worse, this is in Würzburg, so in Germany. We don't even have suburban areas as bad as the USA. In fact, to the left of the picture is a sign for a public transport stop. Still, Germany is strongly controlled by the car lobby.

[–] Pechente 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah and carbrain is pretty widespread. Im also surprised how many people who mainly use their car have absolutely no idea about the 49€ ticket, despite it making international headlines every now and then.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Our family visited Germany this past summer. I really wanted to get the 49€ tickets, but the system to buy them is cumbersome and we weren't around that long.

Now, we did have a visit in summer 2002. We still have our 9€ tickets from that trip. It was a wonder to be able to get around so cheaply.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

Not as bad as the US isn’t saying much. I just looked at an aerial image and there’s still a fair bit of sprawl around the city center.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

You find a parking garage outside of the walkable area and walk where you want to go. I know, it's really hard understand.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, it's always the local businesses that rabidly defend giving everything over to parking spaces. At this point I've given up on inner cities in Germany. They're dying and those idiots are speeding up their own demise because they're completely unwilling to even consider any alternative.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Here in Helsinki I've been seeing some local restaurants converting the parking spots up front into patio space for the summer.

Once it was clear they could choose between two parked cars, or four more tables for customers, a lot seem to be picking the latter.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I'm often impressed with Finland. The attitudes and decision making the nation expresses are often very grounded and data driven.

The trams in Helsinki were also phenomenal. I loved getting around town so easily.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

They can still do those things with that space.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Here in the towns around a lot of these parking lots are also used for those. The parking is open for cars when not used for other things. A sign Warns when parking is not allowed when market is setup. And other days the parking is closed off. The rest of the time it can be used for parking. I thinks that's at least good use of the space.