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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's considered a security concern in most grocery stores where I live. There are signs telling you not to place any items in your shopping bags until you've paid for them. You must use a cart or waste several minutes hunting around the entrance or registers trying to find where they hid one of their 10 shopping baskets.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow, what kind of dystopia do you live in? In my town, they're just happy you went to their store, and I presume cracking down on what little shoplifting there is would drive away more business than it saves.

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have never seen that even in shitty areas.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Admittedly, in the upper class neighborhood grocery stores I don't see those signs. The areas I see them aren't shitty though they are fairly high traffic compared to what I assume would be a typical store.

I looked for but couldn't find a photo of such a sign on DDG. I'll take a picture of one next time I need to get groceries.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

New Jersey, as I said in another reply it's not a bad area but they have high traffic. I haven't seen the signs in the upper class neighborhoods grocery stores though.

Ew, I guess that's another reason to never live in NJ...

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I like shoplifting laws in the common law system because they're, like all theft laws, based on intent. They need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended to take and deprive them of whatever they're accusing you of stealing. If someone conceals something in an elaborate or strange way, you can nail them without them leaving the store. If they put it in their hoodie pocket or shopping bag and have a good excuse for doing so (this is all I had, I wanted to carry more), to "hold" it however, and "forgot" to scan it, you need to actually show that it's a pattern of several times if you want any hope of actually prosecuting them. At least with this policy I guess the stores can ban you even if they can't legally do anything against you. Don't take this comment as encouraging the policy though, you can steal whatever you like from corporations as far as I'm concerned.