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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Next time you want to cite a scientific article. Make sure it actually agrees with your stance first.

The "Harvard page" is just an advertisement for a book and some publications written by mainly one guy.

As for your Oxford paper. Omg. Thank you for the laugh. I'll review it for you in the following comments, since my review is too long for a single comment.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, they do agree.

Your formatting gives me a headache, please learn to succinctly say what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say there's not enough evidence that gun control works? Because you'll be here "debunking" science all day, and yet won't be able to provide any showing that gun control doesn't actually do anything, or is actively harmful. Just like you nutters always. You get just so mad that you're on the wrong side, but you're too proud to be able to change your opinion according to what we know to be true.

What Do We Know About the Association Between Firearm Legislation and Firearm-Related Injuries?

Firearms account for a substantial proportion of external causes of death, injury, and disability across the world. We systematically reviewed studies exploring the associations between firearm- related laws and firearm homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries/deaths. We restricted our search to studies published from 1950 to 2014. Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths. Laws restricting the purchase of (e.g., background checks) and access to (e.g., safer storage) firearms are also associated with lower rates of intimate partner homicides and firearm unintentional deaths in children, respectively.

Weird how you had to skip the beginning of the article, huh? Almost like... picking cherries, huh?

You're one of those gun nuts who thinks they're not a gun nut and has a false sense of confidence of their own intelligence, so you think pasting several chapters would make me throw my hands up in the air and bow to your formidable intelligence as I could just never actually have read the things I link, could I? 100 bucks says you didn't read half of that paper. So yeah; Thanks for the laughs and confirming yet again what I said.

Here's a quick tip; press "ctrl-f" and write "reductions" and read at least those parts. :D

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oi

Had you read the entire article, you'd know that AT BEST there is no real evidence either way with regard to more than half of those laws.

But I don't deserve your time or respect and you get no more of mine. Talking to walls is more productive.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

either way with regard to more than half of those laws.

And the other half?

Oh, someone opposing gun control with poor rhetoric and "I don't believe in your science it's not actually science you can't actually say that for sure something will happen".

There's plenty of evidence. You just choose to ignore it.

How does it feel to be against something that works literally everywhere where it's been implemented on a national level, with the excuse of "well I don't care for the dying children, I'm not convinced by these hundreds of studies all saying the same thing, it's not enough evidence"?

Honestly, it's sickening. It'd be different if there weren't children constantly dying of gun violence in the states. But with all your school shootings and you still parrot this shit? It's disgusting.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you'd read what I wrote you'd see I agreed with a lot of the laws that worked, minus New Zealand's you dense prick.

I will not be replying further.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Oh... and pray tell which ones of the didn't?

You're conflating have objectively little evidence for a policy having had a large effect to that policy being the reverse of itself.

You went "hahahaha thanks for the laughs with that 'science' and pretended you've read the thing and that it doesn't show that gun control works, when ofc it fucking does.

Weird how you don't have any of that science you promised, eh? Almost as if I've had this same exact "debate" hundreds of times and knew what was gonna happen. So weird. Right...?