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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Ohio senator was asked by a journalist what can be done to stop school shootings. He said further restricting access to guns, as many Democrats advocate, won’t end them, noting they happen in states with both lax and strict gun laws. He touted efforts in Congress to give schools more money for security.

I always find this weird because it just completely glosses over the possibilities of A) the restrictions not really doing anything/enough, B) the incredible ease by which someone can just... Go to another state, and C) how absurdly easy it is to purchase firearms in the secondary market.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

they happen in states with both lax and strict gun laws.

Can he back that up with a reputable source?
Seems he is full of weird shit.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

His argument isn't even a valid/honest one. Take Illinois and Chicago specifically. They have stricter gun laws, but when a gun store in Indiana is just a 20-30 minute drive away those restrictions don't do much because of how close by a place with lax laws is.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, he has mastered the Trumpian art of finding a way to be wrong even when he isn't wrong.

He's right in that more anti-gun laws that are largely toothless and/or performative won't do jack shit. Of course, the reason for that is that the genie was out of the bottle decades ago. There are just simply too many guns out on the streets already for any kind of anti-gun law to be even remotely effective. If the first two steps of the process aren't "Reduce the amount of guns currently out on the streets" and "Prevent new guns from made available to the public", then everything else you try to do will be nothing more than a complete waste of time.

Notice how all the laws that have been passed to combat school shootings with AR-15s have done exactly nothing to stop school shooters with AR-15s. There's a reason for that.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s right in that more anti-gun laws that are largely toothless and/or performative won’t do jack shit.

Source that is reputable?

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

gestures broadly