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[–] blackwateropeth@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too bad those columbine shitfucks started this trend. I wonder if we’d have this problem if that never happened. It was probably only a matter of time. Anyways, fuck this reality, more pointless deaths because ‘muh guns’.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

School Massacre are nothing new in the US.

The deadliest school-killing in American history was in 1927, killing 38 children and 6 adults and wounded about 60 more. The killer was the school board treasurer and had spent the previous few months buying and stealing dynamite around his farm and the school as well as his truck.

The difference since Columbine is the celebration of mass shootings. The media makes celebrities out of the killers and make graphics breaking down the planning, supplies, tactics, and more. They're essentially helping the next maniac plan a "better" killing.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, they are kinda new in the way that they're a goal, not a one-off standalone act of petty revenge. Nobody trended blowing up schools after that. After a quick look at wikipedia for a list of school massacres we had less than one per decade after the 1927 event, then a half-dozen in the '90s, now 21 or so since '00.

So I don't know that I agree that they're "nothing new" because that's such a grim and arbitrary undefined way to put it. How few would there have to be to make them new by the context of the specified 1927 event?

I think I agree with the person you responded to - partly...because there was already an uptick in school killings in the '90s, however the Columbine massacre certainly sits on a point that marks a definite change from a half-dozen in a decade to a solid ten per decade, or at least one per year, and the apparent use of schools as a target in the eyes of the killers.

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One big difference is that one was done by an adult. Now we are faced with a whole bunch of kids who are fucked in the head with far more advanced weaponry compared to 1927. Yet the adults keep ignoring the kids and despite all previous warnings, continue to let it happen. If your child was already previously being investigated for threatening to shoot up a school, then you damn well better help them. Sell your guns and use the money to get them some therapy. If you get calls saying there are going to be shootings, you don't sit there with your thumb up your ass until a bunch of people get massacred, yet that is exactly what happened.

The indifference, apathy, media sensationalism, and bullshit thoughts and prayers just make it worse. As soon as the media stops talking about it, it may as well never happened. Maybe some sob piece months later from the parents, but those are barely a footnote. Our country is fucked. Darkest timeline.