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Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages' location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

says army spokesperson Hagari

99% chance that it's either a complete fabrication or a distortion of the truth when an IDF spokesperson is the ONLY source. Let's see if anyone even remotely reliable confirms the story.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

While I agree with you that independent verification is mandatory in situations like this, I also believe that once you get that verification, your position will not change. You have only given yourself a 1% chance of changing your stance, which means, in my opinion, that the only refuge you are offering yourself is conspiracism if and when you are proven wrong.

I suspect the conspiracy will be "Israel killed the hostages themselves."

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

once you get that verification, your position will not change.

False.

You have only given yourself a 1% chance of changing your stance

No. I have given a very generous 1% chance of something said ONLY by an IDF spokesperson being the unvarnished truth. The concurrence of other sources would of course dramatically increase that chance, especially if any of them are themselves very reliable.

in my opinion, that the only refuge you are offering yourself is conspiracism if and when you are proven wrong.

That's a very weird way to guess wrong.

I suspect the conspiracy will be "Israel killed the hostages themselves"

Wouldn't be the first time or the last. That's not a conspiracy theory at this point, though, just what's most likely given the past behavior of all of the factions involved 🤷

I'm reserving final judgment until people of greater reliability than the likes of Donald Trump, Baghdad Bob, or Alex Jones chime in, though.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I suspect the conspiracy will be "Israel killed the hostages themselves."

There are way more far fetched conspiracies out there.