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Hi,

A friend wants to degoogle his phone, so I suggested the OS I'm currently using. The one we can't talk about... He wants a small/compact phone, so I suggested pixel 4a (not buying second hand though), but I'm afraid that planned obsolescence may kill the phone rather soon. What's your opinion?

Cheers and thank you for your help,

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[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not sure where your getting your information but the Pixel 5 has not gotten Android updates or security updates in over 7 months.

There are tons of examples of exploits being used to target EOL phones as its common for people to not care about these updates, or be misinformed, so they are easy targets.

If OP or anyone else wants to use an EOL phone that's fine but, don't pretend its a smart security practice. Although even if I were to use an EOL phone, LineageOS doesn't have the greatest background and isn't really degoogled

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You are still missing my point. All phones actively supported by Lineage OS get Android security patches. Those aren't vendor patches but they do patch the OS and sometimes the kernel.

For instance, the Pixel 5 was last updated June 28. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/panther/

Not to say that you should still buy it. However, if it cheap it might be worth it.

Also from the article you linked:

Although the incident forced LineageOS to take offline all its service, it did not impact the signing keys that authenticate distributions because they are stored on hosts separate from the main infrastructure.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Those are partial security patches (its not in the same ballpark as a non EOL phone).

Even non EOL phones are usually updated dangerously slow when it comes to LineageOS.

Some more sources, not sure why I'm even adding them as you seem hell bent to believe LineageOS is secure regardless of the facts.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/lineageos-weder-sicher-noch-datenschutzfreundlich-custom-roms-teil4/

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If my device is so insecure why haven't I been compromised? Your "facts" are only important if it promotes Graphene OS.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lmao putting facts in quotes does not makes them less true. Figures, that when confronted with reality you would immediately start relying on logical fallacies.

Just because you are more at risk of being compromised does not mean you will be compromised. This is obvious.

You don't have to respond if your just going to be a child about it.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 4 months ago

I think lineage is a good operating system for a limited exposure use cases. Like a project phone on a safe network, or as a webcam, or is like a embedded hardware controller. But not on the raw internet, not processing raw internet data, not with open Wi-Fi, not with open Bluetooth.

Even with all of that, it should still be segmented from the rest of the network