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[โ€“] Ethalis@jlai.lu 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Most main figures or the center parties came out of the bush and admitted they wouldn't work with a Left government, even after its most radical component (LFI) proposed not playing an active role in this hypothetical government

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like they want a minority government.

[โ€“] bouh@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Macron is actually imposing a majority government of his party. He is now excluding the far right and LFI from discussions. Which leaves his party the biggest one he accept to talk with. If they make a coalition, which I imagine is what he will suggest they do, his party will be the biggest of the coalition.

Meanwhile, as long as he fuck around like this, the old government still governs like nothing happened.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How can it be a majority government if his party is the second largest after NFP and before RN? Without NFP nor RN, isn't it by definition a minority government?

I feel like I'm missing something...

[โ€“] Jomn@jlai.lu 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He's hoping to work with individual parties (PS, PCF, Greens) that are currently part of the NFP, in order to exclude LFI from the equation.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If the NFP doesn't break up, then that doesn't sound like a path forward. From what I've heard, French media, Macron, and his party have been painting LFI to be worse than RN for some reason that I can't understand.

Probably he'll blame the NFP for not wanting to break up with LFI and say they're at fault for hindering a coalition. I bet that's his next move.

[โ€“] bouh@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

That, or he's still fantasising that he can controle the situation and win through "political wits" and authority.

I'm speculating, but I feel like if his party doesn't rule, Macron will completely lose controle over it. So he's doing absolutely everything he can for that to not happen. But he will have to face reality at some point. Unfortunately the 5th Republic of France doesn't encourage him to be reasonable.

[โ€“] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Macron, and his party have been painting LFI to be worse than RN for some reason that I can't understand.

My guess: โ‚ฌโ‚ฌโ‚ฌ

[โ€“] federalreverse 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To the best of my understanding, NFP campaigned together but that doesn't mean they they necessarily must govern together. I.e. Macron is trying to pick and choose which parties from NFP he is willing to work with.

[โ€“] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Easy, Macron said he wouldn't talk to LFI or RN anymore. Without LFI and RN, macron's party is the largest.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

The biggest of brains! Like the kid in hide and seek that closes its eyes and demands it's now invisible.

[โ€“] bitflag@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is the "left government" has adopted the most radical component's entire program (except on nuclear energy and some foreign topics).

If a different minister passes the same "we will tax all french abroad and raises marginal tax to 90%" law, doesn't really changes anything to the bottom line.

[โ€“] NotAnonymousAtAll 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All citizens of the United States are taxed under the same personal income tax system, regardless of whether they live in the country or abroad.

https://www.taxesforexpats.com/expat-tax-advice/Citizenship-Based-Taxation-International-Comparison.html

So half of the most extreme radical leftist demand is basically "do what the USA does on taxation".

[โ€“] bitflag@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Except the US tax rate is much lower. Paying the sky high French taxes while getting zero in public services in return (unlike actual French tax residents) is basically robbery.

Also just because the US does it means it's good.