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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Strategically speaking, why does Harris want open mics? I thought Dems pushed for the muted mics to prevent Trump from blabbering past his time? Seems like a situation that would make it hard for Harris to get a word in otherwise, trying to understand the benefit.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Probably because they think when (not if) Trump blabbers while Harris is trying to speak, it will make Trump look bad in front of undecided voters. I think they're right.

Team Harris might even try to pull a Chris Christie, who predicted what Rubio would say and watched his prediction come true, eg

Harris: "As a former prosecutor, I believe in following the rules. But Trump believes rules don't apply to him. He's not supposed to interrupt me, but he just did a moment ago. And mark my words: he will do it again soon, because -"

Trump: "No I won't!"

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Hahaha - you must be Nostradamus because that's exactly how it will go.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He won't be able to stay focused the entire time. I assume the Dems think that at some point he'll say something so monumentally stupid that even the media can't gloss over it any more.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But he says monumentally stupid things every hour of every day, it's hardly a blip any more. Idk, I have my doubts. I know Harris can hold her own but when his lies compound more lies before anyone can make an argument for truth, it becomes impossible to keep up even under the best conditions. It's not a court room with a judge that's going to hold anyone in contempt.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

To me or you, but not to MAGA. What if, on the topic of crime, he goes off on a tangent and says something to the effect of "I'll just repeal the second amendment, no guns no problem!"

That would be something monumentally stupid for him to say to his MAGA base

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

What if, on the topic of crime, he goes off on a tangent and says something to the effect of "I'll just repeal the second amendment, no guns no problem!"

He already did pretty much exactly that and zero fucks were given.

They have no principles and no values that they put above their god-king the Mango Mussolini.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

And Harris knows exactly how to lead a witness.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It would be something stupid, but #1 they likely won't be watching a debate that's not on one of their propaganda/outrage channels, and #2 his spin teams would either call it fake or just dog whistle it as "not our second amendment rights wink wink"

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Maga will care if he looks weak. She will make him look weak.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He won’t be able to stay focused the entire time.

Have the Trump handlers considered dangling a set of shiny keys above his head during Harris's answer to distract him?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That might, you know, trigger him.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

You mean like, “Friends, Americans, countrymen, lend me an ear?”

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I can see him muttering all sorts of BS while Harris is speaking.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because she’s a former DA with a significant amount of trial experience in pretty high-stakes cases, and Trump is an imbecile. I really do think she’d absolutely take him apart in a debate.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

A courtroom is a highly controlled environment with everyone operating under oath and tangible consequences for breaking decorum, like I said in my other comment, overall I don't doubt Harris could hold her own - but it seems like a misstep that will allow trump to soak up all the airtime. I hope I'm wrong!

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go watch the "I'm speaking "moment when Harris debated pence.

Destroyed. She wants this again.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure that makes sense, but I also believe Pence backed off because he had a shred of self respect.

What will Harris do with someone who doesn't yield and instead raises their voice, doubles down, and starts redirecting, asking when she became black?

Different beasts, guess it will be interesting if nothing.

[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

To his credit, Biden adhered to the give/take of ideas with Trump. It's courteous to let the other person speak and I'm sure he thought those watching would clearly see he's the reasonable person in the debate. Since Trump has no such courtesy, he just ran out the clock with nonsense, making Biden look weak/confused rather than reasonable. So they wanted the mics cut. I think they're confident in Harris' ability to put Trump on his ass when he tries with her.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

They're pointing out that Trump wants muted mics because he can't shut up and won't be able to stop blabbering. The relatively sane people running trumps campaign know that would be a huge problem because he's already getting press for babbling batshit and a debate in prime time would be the last place they'd want him to go full demented narcissist.

By making it a news article, Trump sees it and is therefore pitted against his own campaign which he can't allow, so - it's win-win and they haven't even agreed to anything yet.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

It could be that the Harris people are playing mind games.

If Donnie wants open mics, demand open mics.

He's a toddler, so he'll switch and demand they be cut off.

[–] jagermo 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She's ging to shout "Liar' everytime he lies. I'd use an airhorn but whatever works

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I know you're kidding, but that's the second-worst thing she could do, with not calling him on ANY of his lies the worst.

No matter how true, yelling the same word every 5 or so seconds is NOT an effective debate strategy.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Guy’s completely fucked in the head. He’s going to say all sorts of weird stupid shit that will further entrench some fraction of undecideds in the Harris camp. Harris has been very smart to mock him and goad him into fits of verbal diarrhea.