3DPrinting is a place where makers of all skill levels and walks of life can learn about and discuss 3D printing and development of 3D printed parts and devices.
The r/functionalprint community is now located at: !functionalprint@kbin.social or !functionalprint@fedia.io
There are CAD communities available at: !cad@lemmy.world or !freecad@lemmy.ml
No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
No porn (NSFW prints are acceptable but must be marked NSFW)
No Ads / Spamming / Guerrilla Marketing
Do not create links to reddit
If you see an issue please flag it
No guns
No injury gore posts
If you need an easy way to host pictures, https://catbox.moe may be an option. Be ethical about what you post and donate if you are able or use this a lot. It is just an individual hosting content, not a company. The image embedding syntax for Lemmy is 
Moderation policy: Light, mostly invisible
I don't print any abrasive materials at all. Pretty much only normal PLA and PETG.
I noticed, that my print quality gradually went down quite a bit, especially in the last few prints. I had a lot of stringing, weird blobs, and scarred surfaces.
Now, the print quality is as good as it should be!
They are dirt cheap. You can get a set of 10-15 generic ones, in different sizes, for only a few bucks. Don't forget that they are consumables.
And if you do print aggressive abrasive materials, remember to either get a super expensive hardox nozzle, or just throw them away after each print. Woodfiber will murder any nozzle.
Gotta say though, your nozzle mostly looks dirty, not worn out (much)
This solution to abrasive filament is a tungsten nozzle or one of the ruby tip ones. The cost is a bit expensive but with a tungsten nozzle you might be one and done
Yeah, 70 bucks buys a LOT of disposable ones though. It's probably worth it at some point, but not at my amount of abrasive filament use.
Yeah, you could get hundreds of cheap nozzles for $70. I've bought packs of 10 nozzles for 74 cents. That's almost a thousand nozzles I could get instead of one $70 tungsten one. Or maybe "only" 800 nozzles if I factor in a pessimistic shipping cost too.
EDIT: Checked the price I paid and it was even cheaper than I remember. Edited my calculations.
The time and care required to changing the nozzle (unless you've got a good mod or fancy system) isn't worth it IMO.
Quality > Quantity
And after a while, you can melt all those nozzles into an ingot of whatever it is made of and show off the weight to others.
Brass pot metal most likely. Don’t expect to be able to sell it for much though.
Might be neat to learn sand casting and make a huge commemorative nozzle trophy, or even better, a container for the future spent nozzles!
Or get it machined into new nozzles by a friend who added a CNC Lathe to their setup.
Obligatory we already create a lot of waste 3d printing. Please keep that in mind.
If you need to replace a cheap nozzle after each medium-sized print with abrasive filament, then I'm thinking print quality will suffer towards the end of a larger print (like >250g, but definitely >1kg). Not having to replace nozzles mid-print makes the $70 nozzle seem like a better deal. Depending on what you print and how much you print, of course.
Forget about tungsten, get yourself a Diamondback nozzle They're pretty much indestructible regardless of the hardness of the filament! Ask our boy Zack over at Voidstar Labs
Bought one of these a while back, and it's been great. Yeah, you can get hundreds of cheapo nozzles for the price, but not having to deal with increasingly shitty prints and nozzle changes has made it worthwhile for me, at least. I don't even use abrasives, mainly just matte PLA.
Ackschually
PLA is not abrasive by itself but it's additives might be. Titanium dioxide is a common colorant for example which might end up eroding your nozzle slowly.
Not sure if I see a difference but it's more expensive.
The link I sent does have material property comparisons with most other nozzle materials, including tungsten carbide.
But, given that they're trying to sell the Diamond nozzles in the first place I would take all those values with a grain of salt.
From their information it's like super amazing but that's not always translated to actual use. I tried finding more reviews but couldn't find anything.
Do you have one of those? Have you used any other hardened nozzles? I'm still under the impression that the ruby tip is king for the cost and reputation
I personally haven't used tungsten carbide or ruby nozzles to have a point of reference.
For all I know the Diamondback could be overkill, with little real world benefit compared to ruby nozzles and just more expensive.
So take that as you will ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: arms
The tungsten carbide nozzle that I use is pretty good. I have only ever had one clog and I was using old filament. I just heated the head to ABS levels and it drained the clog simple enough. When I have had clogs with brass nozzles it can be a chore to clear it. Sometimes requiring taking the whole thing apart. So the tungsten does it all from what I can tell. I havn't changed it in over a year and my prints come out looking great. The quality of the filament is a big factor. I use the prusa recycled filament for most of my first runs. The heat expansion is splitting hairs on their part. Maybe for science or industrial level uses its an important factor but in home hobby use, its probably next to impossible to tell if it does matter. The optimal temp is always different depending on the users environment.
I'd probably try this diamondback nozzle if I need to replace the tungsten and I can find more independent reviews. It just feels like they are banking on the diamond part being OMG its the hardest material but the ruby is almost as hard and has more field tested and reviewed history to it. Plus its got the pretty red tip while the diamonback has a gray graphite look to it.
This is what I did. I have not had to change nozzles since.
I will say, however, that this will definitely prompt you to git gud at cleaning nozzles, and inventing jigs and tools for doing so, because you'll no longer just want to shrug and throw away your current nozzle if it clogs badly.
Stainless steel nozzles work well enough and aren't that expensive