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Why does everyone hate on Alien Covenant? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by TachyonTele@lemm.ee to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee

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Prometheus was definitely a disappointment, so I've put off watching Covenant because everyone always says it's worse than Prometheus. I finally watched it tonight, and I thought it was a hell of a lot better. It's actually a good Alien movie imo.

Spoilers beware:

I enjoyed the synthetic, and I think they did a good job with both of them. I liked most of the crew, especially the lead actress. That relieved smile at the end was too cute. The actual aliens were bad ass too. The fight with the two "kids" was crazy. It's awesome to finally see aliens do crazy animal attacks. Especially loved the 360 tail attacks. The "it respected me" scene was cool too, that's such a great idea. They were relentless with their attacks and they just kept coming back.

I know people harp on what's Dr Shaw being killed between movies, but I think it works fine. Really shows you how evil David's become. I could have done without the obvious twist at the end, but whatever. Movies gotta movie, I guess.

I don't know what I'm missing. Do people dismiss the movie without seeing it or something?

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[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Every person in these movies is a blistering idiot. Like, the levels of stupid on every single person in these expeditions is insane.

The original Alien didn't require the entire cast to be complete morons, unfit to even operate as an adult in society, much less be mission-critical crew on a colonization mission.

If it hadn't been for the android in the original Alien, they would have observed reasonable quarantine procedures and there wouldn't really have been a problem.

That's one of the main reasons I think these movies are bad. The writers either did not care enough or were too incompetent to write intelligent, believable, relatable characters that I actually grow to care about.

[–] classic@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

This is exactly it. A story entirely driven by people doing the stupid move. Like they paid for a b horror movie level script

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Prometheus at least explained the stupidity:

They explicitly state that the crew signed up for a 4 year cryo-sleep, to an unknown destination, completely blind as to where they are going or why.

These aren't the best and brightest. That's why you get a biologist going "Look! An unknown alien life form! I wonder if it wants to be friends!"

Everyone makes fun of the map guy getting lost, but the map guy isn't making the maps, his drones make the map and feed the data back to the ship, he has no clue what the map looks like.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't they send the best and brightest? Weyland is infinitely rich and has a personal stake in the success of the mission.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because they are intentionally not telling people where they're going or what they're doing with a 4 year cryo-sleep.

"Hey, I'm going to take you out of your life for a minimum of 8 years, I can't tell you what or why, just trust me bro."

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean he could say "Hey, I’m going to take you out of your life for a minimum of 8 years, I can’t tell you what or why, but as compensation I'm paying you enough to make you set for life."

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

The best and brightest would instantly find that even more suspicious. Unless you're explicitly okay with dying to have your family taken care of, you're not going to be swayed onto this mystery mission just for unlimited money.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yup, everyone loves a good old-fashioned idiot plot.