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c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone <mailto:c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone> is full of transphobic trolls (lemmy.ca)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by MindTraveller@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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The community c/libertyhub@lemmy.blahaj.zone states in the sidebar it's a community for leftists and post leftists, but if you actually look at the posts the mods are making, it's almost nothing but trolling and telling people not to vote in the general election.

This rhetoric is especially dangerous to trans people, who this instance is supposed to be a safe space for, and West Bank Palestinians. If the USA elects a fascist president, there is guaranteed to be multiple genocides of society's most vulnerable groups, in addition to what the US is already doing in Gaza.

The mods on Liberty Hub openly troll their users and ban people for advocating left wing or harm reducing positions. The only action that is allowed on the sub is advocating political inaction in the face of genocide, taking a centrist position with regards to open fascism.

This community has absolutely no place on Blahaj Zone and should be removed by the admins.

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[–] lady_scarecrow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Quickly going through the modlog of that community I've found these three comments that were removed for no other reason than they didn't align with what some mod thinks, along with a lot of people who were banned with the reason "liberal".

I don't even agree with these comments, but that doesn't matter. You're willing to host that community to give them a voice, while the mods stifle dissent and ban anyone who disagrees.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I am not willing to exclude trans and queer folk over a difference of opinion, when those opinions are genuinely held, and on issues that directly impact them.

I am not going to tell queer folk that there is a right or a wrong way to deal with the rising tide of bigotry, racism and intolerance we are all facing.

As long as the their community rules live up to the instance community guidelines, they're allowed to moderate on their own terms.

I get that you see me as "giving them a voice", and I guess, ultimately it is. But that's because the goal of blahaj zone is to create a space for trans and queer voices. And that's what those voices are.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there any procedure for when a community enforces different rules from the rules in their sidebar? And when the rules in the sidebar live up to the instance terms, but the real rules do not?

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As long as they're not ignoring the instance guidelines, I'm not going to get involved in issues regarding moderation of individual communities. If people are unhappy with the mods, they will just go elsewhere. I'm not in the business of telling moderators how to run communities they're more connected to than I am.

If the community or its mods are ignoring the instance community guidelines though, then I want to know about it, because that will get dealt with.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 5 months ago

I worry this leaves the door wide open for troll communities to operate with near impunity as long as they all lie consistently enough about their intentions

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So pardon me, but it seems like you are saying I could spread actual Nazi ideology as long as I claimed to be trans?

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you read the instance guidelines? Because that’s pretty clearly incompatible.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok but that is essentially what's happening.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thinking Joe Biden sucks because he’s enabling genocide against Palestinians is a stance held by approximately zero Nazis. It’s a stance held by a lot of queer people.

If you have to chain together a bunch bad faith assumptions to call someone a Nazi, it’s time to cool it. Every queer person isn’t going to have your exact politics, it doesn’t mean they’re a fucking Nazi or faking being queer online. Figure out a way to be okay with that, because the alternative is that you’re going around accusing every queer person whose politics you dislike of being a Nazi.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm sorry but this attitude is exactly how every left leaning space on the internet inevitably gets infiltrated by trolls. If you can't manage to qualify opinions which are aligned with fascist opposition, and you even ban people for such qualification, then you are not an ally. Full stop.