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The former president also told NBC News that spending billions to execute mass deportations of undocumented immigrants is justified because allowing them to remain would cost more.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I didn't express any opinion about whether or not the deportation of illegal immigrants is a good idea. Can you quote my statements that make you think I did?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

any immigrants denied or deported now can easily be replaced by other immigrants later.

This shows a total callous disregard for the real human beings involved with this statement. Throwing away the “other” and ripping apart their life, family, and community is what you are supporting, intentionally or not, with your statement.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

You are mixing up two separate questions.

  1. Will deporting these people do irreparable damage to the USA?

  2. Will deporting these people be morally wrong?

The answers to these two questions are independent of each other. The first question is about objective reality (if "irreparable damage" is clearly defined) and the second is about moral beliefs which are ultimately a matter of personal opinion. I'm only talking about the first question but you can still oppose deportation on moral grounds even if it turns out that mass deportations wouldn't decrease American prosperity.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One type of irreparable damage that could occur to the USA as a result of mass deportations could be reputational or our morality therefore these two questions are not independent of each other.

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