Just like fascists, tankies could theoretically hang out here without getting the boot. It's just that genocide denying authoritarians cannot be tolerated in a tolerant, democratic society. The reason tankies and fascists get the boot is because they can't resist trying to bully and intimidate those that find their views abhorrent. They simply can't resist being terrible.

They're cultists with views that can't stand up to scrutiny, so they need use other tactics to spread their shit and gain power. They use the real downsides and weaknesses of democracy to argue we need an even worse system. Then they argue you actually hold the worst views of their enemies, even though they usually support exactly the same things that make those enemies bad. Tankies claim you're a free-market liberal for opposing them, when the countries they support are state capitalists. Fascists claim you're against freedom of speech, while they are always trying to ban ideas they hate. Some of them are misguided and believe their own lies, but others are just awful people.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Tankies traditionally are associated with communists, but today's tankies (even those that call themselves communists) are really after authoritarianism than communism, and given the history of the name (that they supported using tracks on civilians). I don't think they're is much difference between current communists and current fascists, both groups seem to support authoritarianism and feels like term "tankies" fits both of them well.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I learned about a week ago why they are the way they are. See the soviet union was the closest in their mind the world has ever come to communism, so even though it's fallen into fascist oligarchy, they still hold hope that the anticommunist putin is going to rise up and reestablish global communism once more. The only problem with that is that... well Russia doesn't want communism. This is their playbook Yeah, that doesn't look socialist, that looks like "we tried communism it didn't work so lets do fascism this time" so they end up throwing their support towards red flavored fascism since it's the best chance (in their minds) at getting global communism. When the alternative is an american nazi world order, or tiny countries with no power, you don't really have much choice.

But here's something I want every single one of you to realize having read all of that: Even the most fascist redfash still would have killed the nazis. The same cannot be said for the average (in-power) liberal today. Anticommunism is always pro-fascism. Never let your critiques of the left turn into support for the right.

EDIT: Case in point, the person i'm responding to is never going to see this post because they're on a nazi bar instance that banned me.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy world are nazis?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The users are a mixed bag but the mods/admins absolutely are in the business of running a nazi bar. They're doing the classic strategy of passively protecting fascists while actively suppressing those calling out the fascists. They also ban people who are open communists.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Meanwhile, .ml keeps banning my accounts for just commenting on c/worldnews these days.

I'm not a troll. You can go look at my contributions. I made some hexbears look like idiots and now they've got me on a leash.

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