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As a vegan, I would not eat lab grown meat.
It's mainly a texture/concept thing, my food needs to be safe from disembodied muscle, fat, skin, cartilage, bone, minced meat containing the combined flesh of thousands of raped and tortured carcasses, the faecal matter and bacterial colonies all meat is covered with, and the horrifying possibility of meat containing hidden cysts full of pus, bits of hair, teeth, genitals, eyeballs, parasites, tumours, zoonotic diseases, prions, etc.
Lab grown flesh would hopefully be exponentially cleaner, and far less problematic than the current rape torture factories and abattoir system, but I will never be able to thematically seperate labgrown meat from what meat currently is, not enough to be able to put it in my mouth and chew it anyway.
Also, all sentient life (as we know it) is made of flesh. Lab growing billions of disembodied chunks from a handful of sentient animals? There is still deep horror to this. Granted it's on a completely different scale to the current system of livestock atrocities, but it's still horrifying none the less.
Oh, better to eat only broccoli. In the third world, with poop of human cow pig. With a lot of antibiotics, pesticides and other chemicals.
Did I really trigger you so badly that your feeble hormone addled carivore brain tried to get you to think about eating broccoli?
Wow. New vegan power unlocked.
Just fyi, when I’m trying to stem the flow of vegan hate I see online, I find way, way, way more success in not being an obnoxious asshole. It’s a stupid trend, bashing and shitting all over vegans and vegetarians saying the habit is a good thing. Don’t make it harder for everyone else to get on board with this kind of shit.
Did you mean to reply to me?
…yes. Did you read what I said? Because it should be clear I mean you.
So you think vegans should passively put up with bullshit from trolls and never poke fun back? Why?
Are you-
Um. I don’t know what’s even happening here. How do you not get what I’m saying.
Or put another way: “it’s best when trying to make sure not everyone hates a good cause, to not be a total dick.” (Read: you’re being a total dick and not helping your cause.)
“I understand it’s a stupid trend that people on the internet hate vegans and anyone speaking positively about veganism/vegetarianism.”
“You’re making sticking up for veganism/vegans much harder by, as mentioned before, being a dick.”
Get it now?
If you have less respect for vegans because you saw a vegan once took the piss out of a carnist troll on an internet forum... you do realise that's fucking pathetic of you right?
That’s…not what I’m saying. At all. Are you…reading what I’m writing? I literally can’t make it any clearer.
You, (as in you, the person I’m talking to) are being a dick (a douchebag, a pissant, an annoying prick). And you being a dick (douchebag, pissant, et. al) makes trying to stop others (other people on the internet; people who are not you; meat eaters) from hating all vegans (other people; not yous who also happen to subscribe to and live the vegan lifestyle).
You being a dick makes vegans look like assholes. And looking like assholes makes people hate vegans even more. Stop it.
So in order to placate the meat eating masses, vegans should never talk back to the meat headed trolls?
Bruh a vegan having good comebacks to trolling isn't going to tank the cause and my putting a troll in their place with a good quip isn't going to make the meat eating bigots hate vegans any more or less. They're going to hate us anyway, so why not let some vegans enjoy fucking with them back?
Or you know, just get the fuck over yourself and stop trying to control people.
No. In order to help…yknow…the earth? The animals? Why is this so much about other people for you?
Why are you vegan? For yourself? For clout? As I mentioned…like, three or four times…my whole idea is to help promote the good idea. Not you, not others. And you’re standing in the way of a good thing because you can’t get the fuck over yourself.
So you promote this good thing by shitting on other vegans and acting as if you make the rules? Lmao, you're really making us look so great infront of the meatheads.
I'm not sure you've thought this through tbh.
No.
No. Like, what is your damage?
For real. How are you not understanding what I’m saying?
I’m saying you’re not doing veganism any favors by being a dick. Holy shit, I literally have run out of ways to put what I’m saying. I’d like to see the idea stop getting shit on by people online. And people like you, being a dick, make that unlikely. Veganism is already facing an uphill battle in the likeability/image department, thanks to organizations like PETA and their annoying, obnoxious antics. You, being a dick about veganism makes that hill even steeper. Are you…grasping this yet?
Do you think the non-vegans in this thread respect you and like veganism more now after your behaviour here?
Or do you think that they also think you're a massive gaping asshole of a vegan?
Who would consider joining this movement after seeing you trying to be the vegan morality police over a joke you didn't like made by a fellow vegan?
The standard for veganism that you're trying to insist on setting here is socially controlling, demanding, manipulative and just plain unlikable.
You're really not helping the vegan cause with this behaviour.
Ironic. “Don’t be a dick” is an unlikeable position.
That makes sense.
Nah fam, what's ironic is that you're the one being the dick here.
lol. I ended up getting frustrated with you because it took me explaining a really simple thing like five different ways before you understood what I was saying. I feel like that wouldn’t hint at you being a really great judge of much, especially communicating about something you claim to care about with people on the internet. So…
Even an ounce of self reflection would go a long way my dude. Here's hoping one day you'll be able to get over that ego of yours and give it a go.
Oh my god the irony of this comment is almost too much.
I started out this entire goddamn odyssey of a conversation doing nothing more than suggesting you change your tact. Telling you i support what you’re doing but think you’re going about it all wrong.
You got snarky—even though you entirely misunderstood what I said. And continued misunderstanding what I was saying. Calling you out on doing your cause no favors and me getting annoyed that I couldn’t get my point across has nothing to do with….anything that you’re now trying to make me think this conversation has ever been about lol
I'm starting to feel ableist for laughing at you. This is no longer fun for me so I'm blocking you now.
Hopefully you can become a better person on your own. Good luck wanker.
lol the “no u r” defense. A+